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Old 5th-April-2005, 03:33 PM   #51 (permalink)
El Salsero Gringo
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Re: Dancing by numbers....

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Originally Posted by Graham
By that logic if a male teacher gives instructions to the ladies he must be following? Incidentally, I frequently have to point out to beginner ladies that the instructions are in fact for the men.
My turn not to follow your logic there, Graham: it's the wording of the instructions, not who gives them, that counts. Anyway, people get stuck in a mental rut when they're listening to verbal instructions. How many times does the teacher have to repeat "at waist level" to a class before the people with their arms in the air realise she's talking to them? I think the ladies should be issued earplugs, so they can't hear the instructions or the music, and the men with remotely triggered electric catttle prods to wake them up a bit. That would make things much easier.
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I have explained to Wendy what it's like to lead as a demo, given that there IS a degree of backleading when the teacher wants to highlight something. I still think she has a point though - beginner men and women are unlikely to be able to tell who is leading (personally I can only detect it when there is a slight mistake - if everything is flowing I think it's really hard to see). I know the teachers often mention the lead-follow aspect, but from my experience it doesn't always register with beginners, and unless you incorporate specific exercises into the class it really isn't something which leaps out at you.
Yes, all true.
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I think you're reading more into Wendy's comments about the music than she intended.
Sorry, Wendy, I'm a dumb-ass.
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The huge majority of classes I have attended have the 5,6,7,8 counted out in 'Ceroc counts', not beats of the music. In fact the only time I can think of hearing it counted as musical beats is where it's done as 5...6...5,6,7,8 (ie first bar on 'Ceroc counts', second bar on beats).
I guess you're right. I know: let's give the beats of the move letters - A, B, C, D - or maybe we could count in Roman Numberals: i, ii, iii, iv.
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