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Originally Posted by ducasi I never noticed this ceroc beats vs. real beats thing. There's a difference? And here I thought I had a fairly good sense of rhythm.
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I thought I understood what was going on until I read this thread. I haven't been taught what the "MJ count" is, or how it relates to the beat. |
Ceroc counts are two beats - two 'counts' to a 4-beat bar.
When the teacher goes "5 and 6 and 7 and 8" those are Ceroc counts - two musical bars worth, in fact.
When the teacher goes "5,6 - 5 6 7 8" - then the first 5 and 6 are Ceroc counts, and the second set of 5,6,7,8 are musical beats, four to a bar.
A ceroc move always takes an even number of beats, even if it has an odd number of counts - because the number of beats is twice the number of counts.
So you always start a move on a down beat (beat 1 or three in the bar, or beats 5 or 7 if you're counting 8 beats over two bars.)
I think.