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Old 28th-July-2005, 10:25 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Someone on the Tube needs their hand shaken...

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Originally Posted by El Salsero Gringo
Is one automatically a bleeding-heart liberal if one takes a moment to think about the fact that an innocent man was shot dead, and (likely) a policeman's career was ruined?

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But it is still a tragedy and no one should be shy to admit it.
Of course it's a tragedy; I never said it wasn't.

However, if the dead guy had turned out to be a terrorist, with bombs under his jacket, only moments away from killing twenty or more people in a packed tube carriage (and why not also take a moment to think about the prospect of that), we would all be applauding the copper in question for his bravery and fine judgement.

I can't imagine anyone would be regretting the fact that the bad guy hadn't been apprehended, convicted in a court of law, and imprisoned at your expense and mine for a few years.

So I conclude that the principle is right, but the implementation wrong on this occasion - it's a bugger and terrible for all involved, I know. Terrible times demand terrible measures sometimes.

Incidentally, while I'm on a politically incorrect roll, I'll say this too:

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Originally Posted by bigD
When we should be uniting as a society we are separating out people based upon their appearance.
Not only should we (whoever 'we' are) be separating out people based on their appearance, so should the mainstream, peace-loving, well-integrated Muslim community, peace be upon them.

Like it or not, the profile of the bombers is mostly young, male, asian in appearance, likely to be carrying a rucksack, likely to be getting a bit agitated when on public transport.

Muslims and non-muslims alike should be on the lookout for people fitting the profile, and maybe that would increase the chances of spotting the next perpetrators before the next carnage.

This is nothing to do with racism. If the bombers were from a different culture, I, a white guy with a big nose, would be only too happy to be stopped and searched every day in the interests of catching the buggers.

I'd also be more than happy to get one of those transparent rucksack thingies too.
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