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Old 4th-August-2002, 02:39 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Gus
I may be off the mark here but isn't there a lack of clarity about what is a 'learned move'. Try doing a double pretzel with a beginner and you soon leran that maybe it isn't a totaly leadable move. I think there is a difference betweensomething you need to have sort of seen before and a move that is totaly choreographed.
Good point. If leading and following were so easy, then you should never have to show the ladies anything. You just need to tell the men how to lead a move, and all the ladies should be able to follow.
But we all know it's not that easy.
  • There are very few moves that are completely leadable. First move is the only one I can think of.
  • There are moves that we lead, but the lady has to know a bit more to follow. eg an american spin (i think Ceroc call it a push spin??) How does the lady know to spin, and not step back, or just let her arm go back?
  • There are lots of moves where the man leads into something, and expects the lady to do certain things that he hasn't explicitly led. A comb is a perfect example - where is the lead for the lady to slide her hand down the mans arm?
  • Then there are the 'obvious' signals, where you put your spare hand out and expect the lady to take it (eg pretzel).
  • You get some that are less obvious - like the neck break. You put your hand out, but you are not after the lady's spare hand - you are going to change your own hands. How is the lady supposed to know without going to a class?
  • You get a lot of signals that have absolutely no relation to the move.
  • You get verbal leads.
  • And you can have completely choreographed routines.
I don't like verbal leads. And I only like choreographed routines in shows.
I like lead and follow dancing. I don't like signals. But I'm not 100% sure where the dividing line is. Question - is a yoyo leadable? if it a lead or a signal that tells the difference between a yoyo and a hatchback? Is it a lead or assumed knowledge that makes the lady turn in the direction you want?

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