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Originally posted by Gus I may be off the mark here but isn't there a lack of clarity about what is a 'learned move'. Try doing a double pretzel with a beginner and you soon leran that maybe it isn't a totaly leadable move. I think there is a difference betweensomething you need to have sort of seen before and a move that is totaly choreographed. |
Good point. If leading and following were so easy, then you should never have to show the ladies anything. You just need to tell the men how to lead a move, and all the ladies should be able to follow.
But we all know it's not that easy.
- There are very few moves that are completely leadable. First move is the only one I can think of.
- There are moves that we lead, but the lady has to know a bit more to follow. eg an american spin (i think Ceroc call it a push spin??) How does the lady know to spin, and not step back, or just let her arm go back?
- There are lots of moves where the man leads into something, and expects the lady to do certain things that he hasn't explicitly led. A comb is a perfect example - where is the lead for the lady to slide her hand down the mans arm?
- Then there are the 'obvious' signals, where you put your spare hand out and expect the lady to take it (eg pretzel).
- You get some that are less obvious - like the neck break. You put your hand out, but you are not after the lady's spare hand - you are going to change your own hands. How is the lady supposed to know without going to a class?
- You get a lot of signals that have absolutely no relation to the move.
- You get verbal leads.
- And you can have completely choreographed routines.
I don't like verbal leads. And I only like choreographed routines in shows.
I like lead and follow dancing. I don't like signals. But I'm not 100% sure where the dividing line is. Question - is a yoyo leadable? if it a lead or a signal that tells the difference between a yoyo and a hatchback? Is it a lead or assumed knowledge that makes the lady turn in the direction you want?
David