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Originally Posted by DavidJames Arguably, he's just jumped the queue... |
how did he do that? He went private to avoid the queue he was in, anyone else could have done the same. If private hospitals manage to arrange operations with no queues, why cant the NHS? Its usually the same surgeons, yet they can only do it if they get paid more? Do they get paid far too litle with the NHS?
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Originally Posted by rebecca I thought, having considered the above – Do my patients have the right to complain about the conditions in which they live? After all, they have no choice but to be there. . . . . Of course they do! |
Of course they do, they paid their taxes like everyone else and arent there because they broke the laws of their society. I dont think its the same arguement as someone who the law has felt must be incarcerated to protect the rest of society yet can still make demands of it.
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it is being argued that criminals don’t have the right to complain.
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Overall most people seem happy with the importance put on human rights on the other thread.
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Originally Posted by Ballroom Queen Oh yeah, I hear you all, we should all get our health care for free - no one wants to pay more tax, |
Why do you say that? I certainly do. If I have to pay a lot more in tax for a better standard of living for my family I am all for it. I look to Sweden and Norway as models for a better society. That goes for there prisons too.
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Originally Posted by Ballroom Queen but you all want the fancy expensive new drugs and fancy new treatment - that wasn't available 5 or 10 years ago. |
Expensive treatments that are not yet approved should not be given freely on the NHS - despite drug companies pushing the next big thing the NHS cant succumb to media pressure based on 1 or 2 people who think they "might" benefit. One of the reasons the NHS waste so much money is that people are prepared to sue medical staff - if someone is trying to help you, especially in a public service you shouldnt even be allowed to sue. Internal committees should sort out the problems in a public body and compensation, if any is merited, should be handed out by them. When the courts get involved, lots of people make money, and the NHS loses money that could be used for pushing through testing and subsequent approval of new drugs and techniques. I alwasy have a dry chuckle at people who win a million £ settlement and say "we just wanted to make sure it never happened to anyone else" but keep the money anyway.
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Originally Posted by Ballroom Queen (I could continue with gross generalisations about smoking and drinking, but I won't...) |
Smoking is completely banned in all enclosed public places in this country - as it should be. About time too. There is also legislation against happy hours to curb binge drinking - it all helps.