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Re: [ SPOILER THREAD ] Deathly hallows discussion.

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Originally Posted by Beowulf1970 View Post
The bit with Harry's wand automatically defending itself.. it wasn't fully explained .. well ok it WAS .. sort of ... as a side effect of the bond between Harry and Voldermort.
yeah I thought this was a bit far fetched... I thought it was Snape who did that to protect Harry, from behind Voldemort. I think I liked that version better.

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I actually missed the bit where Voldermorts spell backfired.. One second they have wands drawn and the next Voldy's gone Moldy! What? what did I miss.. since when did the disarming spell kill??

That was a little "odd" as well. Using a disarming spell when he knew this was the last and most important battle? Surely he didn't know it would cause the unforgivable curse to rebound. So what was he going to do.. "I've got the elder wand now b*gger off and leave us alone?" Of course, it would never do for Harry to use the killing curse now would it?
I think Harry knew that the wand, of whom he was the true master, would not kill him. Therefore he had nothing to fear from Voldemort, and chose to disarm him? He knew he had to kill him I think, so may be the second spell would have been the AK one. Although I don;t think he'd have been able to perform it (being merciful and all).


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Gratuitious blood bath, at that. Particularly Lupin/Tonks - felt like JK got near the end, remembered she'd said some important people would die in HP7, so quickly killed off a couple of people off stage.
Agreed. Such important characters dying, you'd expect to 'be there' when it happens. Didn't quite realise at first (I was reading quickly and very late at night...).


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To me, the biggest problem with this book is the amount of stuff that happens because JK Rowling needed it to happen. Like Harry, Ron and Hermione hiding in the middle of the woods and just happening to overhear Dean Thomas et. al. discussing vital information. I think you can tell she was writing with half a mind on the screenplay as well.
Indeed, that particular bit was poor I thought. Very far-fetched again.

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I really wish she hadn't pulled the "Hollows" out of nowhere for the last book. Other than the "uber-wand", the other 2 hollows didn't really seem relevant to the plot.
On the contrary, I thought this was very good. I think you need a whole knew enigma in the book otherwise it's just a bunch of stuff that need to happen as you said. Plus again it illustrates the internal struggle between power / glory (Harry being tempted to collect all 3 objects and therefore become the master of death, which as Dumbledore explains, means being invicible to most people; instead of carrying on with the tedious horcrux quest).


Stuff I was sort of disappointed not to see / learn more about:
- the fact that V drank unicorn blood to survive in book 1
- the arch with the veil in the dept of mysteries
- Harry's family from his father's side (how come he had no other relative than Petunia?), although we learn he's a descendant of Ignotus Pewerell (sorry can't remember spelling).
- I thought Snape's part was really small, I would have liked to see a face to face with Harry, or at least McGonagall (where he explains what he's done).

Don't get me wrong, I loved the book though.
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