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Old 9th-July-2004, 11:53 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Okay chaps I'm at Daventry this weekend and so if any of you are there and fancy a spin with a girlie doing the guys stuff drop me a private. I do ALL the guy things including beginners moves and have excellent lines that I've picked up while dancing as a woman:-

You stop suddedenly look deeply into the womans eyes and whisper gently in her ear..
Don't you know how to follow?

I also pet your hands, use your hand to scratch my nose and call you my "bird"!

I'd love to feel how it is to dance with a man dancing as a woman so honestly I will behave if you fancy giving it a try...

Any one esle heading to Daventry?


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I wouldn't recommend it! No offence guys but as a woman who has lead men quite frequently, the majority of them are fairly hopeless! You will find that unless you're immensely strong they will end up trying to pull your arms out of your sockets or decide half way through the dance that they have had enough and are now going to lead! Having said that it's great fun, and if any of you guys happen to be in the Peterborough area...

I lead quite frequently (and probably better than I follow, as I'm not the most elegant girl in the world unless the music gets to me). I started leading because there were too many women and I'd rather dance with women than sit about, but now I really like the challenge of it, from what the girl's I dance with say I'm a good lead, but it did take me quite a while to get the hang of it. I used to do all the moves with the wrong hand and get very confused - although sometimes I wish I could do that now as you'd end up with some interesting stuff, reverse wurlitzers or pretzels etc. It gets better with more practice and I'd recommend you try asking the lady taxi dancers at your venue to dance with you - they're used to helping the guys, so they can probably help you with anything you're not sure of.

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Thanks Trish for the advice. I think that if I do get asked to dance by girls and I don't know how often this may happen, then I'd better have a routine that I can just pull out of the bag.
I go totally blank and feel a tad panicky otherwise!
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Thanks Trish for the advice. I think that if I do get asked to dance by girls and I don't know how often this may happen, then I'd better have a routine that I can just pull out of the bag.
I go totally blank and feel a tad panicky otherwise!

Dianas, can I borrow this bag next Tuesday???? I could do with a routine for when I panic too......Pleeaase!
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I wouldn't recommend it! No offence guys but as a woman who has lead men quite frequently, the majority of them are fairly hopeless!
The snag is that guys don't tend to get any practice following -- though I'd definitely like to improve.

I'm just not sure whether the local venue's going to be too happy to see me in the follower's queue (especially when there're more ladies over than usual)?

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Dianas, can I borrow this bag next Tuesday???? I could do with a routine for when I panic too......Pleeaase!
I'll lend it you!!but has anyone one got one that i can borrow ?
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The snag is that guys don't tend to get any practice following -- though I'd definitely like to improve.

I'm just not sure whether the local venue's going to be too happy to see me in the follower's queue (especially when there're more ladies over than usual)?

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Yes I know what you mean there, there's usually too many ladies, we'll if you're ever in the Ceroc Central area... Peterborough, St Neots, Bedford, Luton... and fancy a dance I'm usually around at freestyles!
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Any one esle heading to Daventry?
I'll be a long way from Daventry this w/e, but if you have the patience of a saint, we could give it a try at Beach Boogie?

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When I first started leading I was told it's useful to learn which hand each move starts on and use a lot of pushspins and moves like manspins/shoulderslides (then you can catch with either hand). A lot of people find themselves getting into patterns of first moves or armjives, swapping hands helps with this. The other thing I found helped me (the first time I lead sucessfully) was getting very, very drunk!!! It didn't improve my balance, but at least I learned not to care what I was doing and just to go with the flow - you don't really know what moves you're doing but you just do something and see what happens, strangely I found it worked out all right. Well actually I can't speak for the girls I was dancing with... they probably thought it was possibly the worst dance they'd had all night... I've never looked back since and can now lead sober!
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OMG your on!
I'll have to get the guys to show me a good routine to impress you! I don't do dropsbut I have done leans, but I may try out my sexy moves just to feel what its like from the other side!

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OMG your on! I'll have to get the guys to show me a good routine to impress you! I don't do dropsbut I have done leans, but I may try out my sexy moves just to feel what its like from the other side! Promise you won't tell? D
Oooo! I fancy some of that. I will be at BB on the first night only so can I be first in the queue? I should point out that I'm about 6ins taller than Sheepy, in case you need a get out clause (claws?)

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Oooo! I fancy some of that. I will be at BB on the first night only so can I be first in the queue? I should point out that I'm about 6ins taller than Sheepy, in case you need a get out clause (claws?)
Okay I've got a mate who is really good at sensuous stuff (I don't like really explicity moves so definatelly won't thrust you with my groin. You're safe), I'll ask him to give me a few of his routines!
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OMG your on!
I'll have to get the guys to show me a good routine to impress you! I don't do dropsbut I have done leans, but I may try out my sexy moves just to feel what its like from the other side!

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I've only just spotted your reply, so my lack of response has nothing to do with fear, honestly!
It sounds like an enlightening experience! But please note I am a beginner at this, I'll be impressed by anyone who can lead me without the use of a sledgehammer.

But as you say, this is just between you and me, and maybe Peter?

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I've only just spotted your reply, so my lack of response has nothing to do with fear, honestly!
It sounds like an enlightening experience! But please note I am a beginner at this, I'll be impressed by anyone who can lead me without the use of a sledgehammer.

But as you say, this is just between you and me, and maybe Peter?

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hi Greg,
It IS really tricky I had a go leading my friend Mary and even though she know the woman's part and I called the moves we ended in tangles!

I seems to be really confident in a lesson, but when I go to freestyle I have times when I just go blank and have difficulty putting moves together. Perhaps if we did part of a class with me being a man (just the start) it would work because you need to learn how to do the womans part too, then before we get too heebee geebee-ish we can swop into our usual roles and move around.

Let me know your thoughts, SM
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as you say, this is just between you and me, and maybe Peter ..
.. plus 250 onlookers, 5 video cameras and all the folks at home ..
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hmmmm this is going to need careful management...
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What you say sounds reasonable, but at BB there won't be many classes suitable for me - complete beginners! As I said, you'll need the patience of a saint, so maybe best to play it by ear. Looking forward to trying though.

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What you say sounds reasonable, but at BB there won't be many classes suitable for me - complete beginners! As I said, you'll need the patience of a saint, so maybe best to play it by ear. Looking forward to trying though.

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ah bless, you sound as nervous as I feel, Greg. It's a bit like driving on the wrong side of the road and starting back wioth a provisional licence. The rules change and suddenly your expected to do a host more things.

I'm pleased that you're a beginner. I can show you a lot of how it is to learn how to follow because its what I'm still learning too. Remember I've only been dancing 9 months so its really all new to me.

We can probably just work on a few bits and pieces together rather than have to dance a whole dance. Some things if a guy understands how it feels may really help him. Being flicked to spin backwards is one of them. They draw you one way then flick you back another and sometimes wonder why you don't spin immediately (your weights on the wrong foot!)

What I have found is that women are so nice to dance with, they really help and encourage other women and never say horrid things and their arms are so soft!

I'll sure you'll be lovely, and I'm really looking forward to dancing with you,
Have you packed your bucket and spade?
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Remember I've only been dancing 9 months so its really all new to me.
Good on you Dianas, I think I'd been dancing for about a year and a half before I ventured into leading (no comments please ). I'll do both the beginners and intermediate class as the lead and enjoy dancing with girls and any of the guys who fancy trying their hand at following.

I've had some truly amazing dances - especially over the last weekend with Sparkles, Wendy and Linda

At the moment I worry most about leading the moves properly and fitting in moves that go with the music - I'm concerned that I'm not making the most of the moves that I know, as I tend to fall back into my old favourites when I'm dancing in freestyle.

I enjoy being able to help with the beginners and, also, it means that if a great track comes on and no-one has asked me to dance I don't need to sit it out - I can get on the dancefloor too
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This is one of my favourite bits about being able to dance as a man - it means you never have to sit out when you'd rather be dancing. IMO one of the best things about social dancing is to be able to walk into a room and feel that you can confidently (relatively) walk up to anyone there and ask them for a dance
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This is one of my favourite bits about being able to dance as a man - it means you never have to sit out when you'd rather be dancing. IMO one of the best things about social dancing is to be able to walk into a room and feel that you can confidently (relatively) walk up to anyone there and ask them for a dance
Hi Sparkles,
Its nice to hear from you again. I think that your absolutely spot on here, so often there are 12 -15 women over in our venues (so guys if you want a good night no refusals and lots of really good women head for South Birmingham!)and if we go out to a night club we have to really try to get equal numbers or its hopeless,
There are a couple of balls that me and my mates want to go to but we feel that asking a guys to spend 35 pounds for the pleasure of our company and to dance with us is a little much when we have no alterior motives!
So if I learnt to dance the lead it would mean that we perhaps weren't so dependent,
A cunning plan eh?
just must get over the hee bee gee biies, girls don't bite do they?!
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