Deathly Hallows - publication date announced

**Divissima** · 1st-February-2007, 02:34 PM

For the other HP fans of the Forum.

I've just seen this

So, who wants to get in early with predictions about the last instalment - who will get together, who will survive, and who will get their comeuppance (and from whom)??

**Jamie** · 1st-February-2007, 02:37 PM

Whoop! Love Harry Potter! Well, not Harry really, Ron does it for me

Can't wait for DH to come out, i'm awaiting Pre-Order to become available...

Who's gonna check to see if the last word is "Scar"? I don't know if I dare!

**Beowulf** · 1st-February-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Divissima

So, who wants to get in early with predictions about the last instalment - who will get together, who will survive, and who will get their comeuppance (and from whom)??

1. Dumbledore isn't dead.. or if he is his phoenix will some how bring him back. Too much use of the phoenix and him being cremated if you ask me. He'll make a Gandalf style entrance at some point, after being mistaken for some "weird stranger" or "voldermort" even?

2. Snape isn't a bad guy but a very sneaky undercover agent.

3. Snape will get killed while heroically saving Harry from Voldermort.

4. Harry will kill voldermort.

Ron and hermione will get together.

There'll be a big party at the end of the book with lots of fireworks and drum music while all the ewoks dance around the camp fire.. oops sorry wrong epic !!

**Jamie** · 1st-February-2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf1970

1. Dumbledore isn't dead.. or if he is his phoenix will some how bring him back. Too much use of the phoenix and him being cremated if you ask me. He'll make a Gandalf style entrance at some point, after being mistaken for some "weird stranger" or "voldermort" even?

2. Snape isn't a bad guy but a very sneaky undercover agent.

3. Snape will get killed while heroically saving Harry from Voldermort.

4. Harry will kill voldermort.

Ron and hermione will get together.

There'll be a big party at the end of the book with lots of fireworks and drum music while all the ewoks dance around the camp fire.. oops sorry wrong epic !!

Although most of what you said is true, it's predicted one of the 3 will die in the final battle... my guess is Ron.

**Divissima** · 1st-February-2007, 02:58 PM

For what it's worth:

I think Dumbledore is really dead and won't come back (although his portrait may provide a way for Harry to use him for support) - killing him off means Harry really has to stand on his own two feet and face Voldemort alone in the final showdown

If one of the three dies, my money would be on Harry - his fate is so intertwined with Voldemort that it would not surprise me if they both have to die (as hinted at, I think, in one of the previous books - I'll have to refresh my memory) - Harry may be a horcrux and may have to die in order for Voldemort to die

It would not surprise me if Snape really is evil and has been working as a double agent - I think Harry may have to do battle with Snape (and win) before the final showdown

The ewoks will prove decisive to the final battle and will help destroy the ring of power

LMC · 1st-February-2007, 03:10 PM

I expect I shall buy my copy heavily discounted from my local Tescos at about teatime on the day it's released. Remarkably effective with no queues for the last two HPs.

Agree that Dumbledore is really dead, but that his portrait will come in handy.

Agree that Snape is a double agent, but am going to guess that *he* will be the one to actually kill Voldemort and be killed himself in the battle - I seem to recall HP being very depressed at the thought that he would either die or have to kill V in cold blood - perhaps JKR will save him from that moral dilemma. HP will be present though, having destroyed all the remaining Horcruxes, but will be held up by slow-on-the-uptake Malfoy while Snape races ahead, so say to 'warn' Voldemort but actually to dust him.

Ron & Hermione/Harry & Ginny - no brainer.

Perhaps I'm wrong and HP will die so JKR doesn't have to write about him any more - I'd be fairly bored with him if I were her (although all that cash must make up for it). But there would be such an outcry if she did kill him off (remember Conan Doyle having to bring back Sherlock Holmes?) - and think about the loss of future revenues (

): HP going to Wizard University, HP training to be an Auror and mopping up all Voldemort's supporters, HP suddenly realising that Voldemort was just the sidekick and the Most Ultimately Evil Wizard in the universe is actually Arthur Weasley, HP's children (hooray, more Hogwarts), etc.

The ewoks will turn out to be in disguise from an alternate universe, possibly the Dungeon Dimensions... sorry, I'm getting my authors mixed now too.

TheTramp · 1st-February-2007, 05:13 PM

1. Voldemort will come to realise that a life of evil is a bad thing, repent, and most of the book will be talking about flower-growing over tea and crumpets.

2. Snape will turn out to be Harry's father, due to a brief liaison he had with Lily just before they left Hogwarts. And the rest of the book will be about father-son bonding sessions.

*Lounge Lizard* · 1st-February-2007, 05:23 PM

Snape could well be a goody, dumbledore had to have a good reason to trust him, also the 'I told you so' element is so strong, making Dumbledore wrong and everyone else right - this seems out of charecter with her writing & the wise old headmaster.

What if......?
(I seem to remember harry was not the first infant he attacked),
What if at this time, Voldemort killed one of Snapes young relatives, possibly a son no one knew about if this is the case that would give Dumbledore good reason to trust him. (who would the mother be)

If this the last Book, Harry has to die, then the story can end - or become a spin off mini series on Sky One

If he does not return to Hogwarts, where will the central location be and will we see a bunch of new wizards.
can't wait
p

Little Yellow Fish · 12th-February-2007, 06:29 PM

ANybody have any ideas about who RAB is? You know, from the necklace horcrux in the cave?

I'm thinking Regulus Black, as we all remember the fabulous Sirius telling Harry that his brother was killed by Voldemort himself, but doubts he was important enough...

I don't think JK would be cruel enough to kill off both of Harry's parents, Sirius, Dumbledore and Ron. That would just be too much for one wee guy to handle.

I dont think Harry will die. I think that he will survive and JK will write more books in the future about his fight to remove the Death Eaters as an auror. She hinted last year some time that she might write another book for charity

xx

Mezzosoprano · 16th-February-2007, 09:55 PM

The publication is iminent (well, July anyway) of the last Harry Potter book so I wondered if anyone else would be reserving a copy - also, rumour has it that a couple of major characters are going to get bumped off... so who might it be and why???

Couple of Bertie Botts Beans of Every Flavour for anyone?

Just realised that this should probably be in the book club bit.... dozey idiot that I am

Mezzosoprano · 16th-February-2007, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheTramp

1. Voldemort will come to realise that a life of evil is a bad thing, repent, and most of the book will be talking about flower-growing over tea and crumpets.

2. Snape will turn out to be Harry's father, due to a brief liaison he had with Lily just before they left Hogwarts. And the rest of the book will be about father-son bonding sessions.

Ye Gads! That's just toooo awful! The boy would end up in some kind of therapy or Wizard Borstal

**Dreadful Scathe** · 17th-February-2007, 04:43 AM

Harry dies at the end, but somehow lives on in some weird magical way. Snape is a plant to confuse the deatheaters, and a good guy. Dumbledore is not dead. People discover this is a childrens book.

**Icey** · 18th-February-2007, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe

Harry dies at the end ...

Can you imagine the uproar if JKR did this?

**Dreadful Scathe** · 18th-February-2007, 12:48 PM

what do you mean "if" , she will, theres no doubt about it

**Baruch** · 18th-February-2007, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe

Dumbledore is not dead.

'Fraid Dumbledore is definitely dead. JKR herself has said so in an interview (too lazy to find the link right now though).

**Dreadful Scathe** · 19th-February-2007, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Baruch

'Fraid Dumbledore is definitely dead. JKR herself has said so in an interview (too lazy to find the link right now though).

here

...sob...

Barry Shnikov · 19th-March-2007, 01:18 PM

I refer to my previous post on the subject of the pre-publication forum dizziness for the last book.

Barry Shnikov · 19th-March-2007, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe

People discover this is a childrens book.

purpleheather · 19th-March-2007, 10:26 PM

Regulus Black does seem to be the obvious choice for RAB. But equally, it could be some character who hasn't been mentioned yet. Doubtless Harry will spend part of the book looking for RAB.

The other thing that probably has to be a big influence in the "final showdown" is the overwhelming power of love. JKR has always had that as a major influence in the books. E.g. vol 1, HP's protection against Voldemort is that his mother died to save him, which can only be neutralised (but only to a degree) in HP4 by Voldemort using some of HP's blood for his regeneration, but even that notwithstanding, in HP5 and HP6, the protection given to HP by the fact that his mother died out of love to save him is preserved at the place where his mother's blood dwells... etc etc. Also in HP5, what drives Voldemort out when he tries to possess HP is when HP feels joy (deriving from his love for Sirius) at the thought of death reuniting him with Sirius. And Dumbledore keeps yakking on about "love" being the power "which the Dark Lord knows not...."

And so on and so on....

So, my feeling is that the final battle will somehow involve Voldemort's power being defeated love.... maybe someone sacrificing themselves out of love (but that is a bit reminiscent of the first volume, Harry's mother etc...)

After the various horcruxes have been dealt with, of course.

**Gadget** · 20th-March-2007, 01:07 PM

I think that Malfoy will 'bond' with Harry after LordV bumps off his parents.

I think that Nevil may be the one to defeat LordV in the end, but die nastily.

I think Harry will end up wandering the world incogneto and everyone else thinking he is dead.

1st-February-2007, 02:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
Divissima Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,461 Rep Power: 3 Reputation Total: 244	Deathly Hallows - publication date announced For the other HP fans of the Forum. I've just seen this So, who wants to get in early with predictions about the last instalment - who will get together, who will survive, and who will get their comeuppance (and from whom)??

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Jamie Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Disneyland Paris Posts: 1,530 Rep Power: 1 Reputation Total: 483	Re: Deathly Hallows - publication date announced Whoop! Love Harry Potter! Well, not Harry really, Ron does it for me Can't wait for DH to come out, i'm awaiting Pre-Order to become available... Who's gonna check to see if the last word is "Scar"? I don't know if I dare!

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Divissima Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,461 Rep Power: 3 Reputation Total: 244	Re: Deathly Hallows - publication date announced For what it's worth: I think Dumbledore is really dead and won't come back (although his portrait may provide a way for Harry to use him for support) - killing him off means Harry really has to stand on his own two feet and face Voldemort alone in the final showdown If one of the three dies, my money would be on Harry - his fate is so intertwined with Voldemort that it would not surprise me if they both have to die (as hinted at, I think, in one of the previous books - I'll have to refresh my memory) - Harry may be a horcrux and may have to die in order for Voldemort to die It would not surprise me if Snape really is evil and has been working as a double agent - I think Harry may have to do battle with Snape (and win) before the final showdown The ewoks will prove decisive to the final battle and will help destroy the ring of power

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LMC Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In the corner Posts: 4,508 Rep Power: 4 Reputation Total: 2319	Re: Deathly Hallows - publication date announced I expect I shall buy my copy heavily discounted from my local Tescos at about teatime on the day it's released. Remarkably effective with no queues for the last two HPs. Agree that Dumbledore is really dead, but that his portrait will come in handy. Agree that Snape is a double agent, but am going to guess that he will be the one to actually kill Voldemort and be killed himself in the battle - I seem to recall HP being very depressed at the thought that he would either die or have to kill V in cold blood - perhaps JKR will save him from that moral dilemma. HP will be present though, having destroyed all the remaining Horcruxes, but will be held up by slow-on-the-uptake Malfoy while Snape races ahead, so say to 'warn' Voldemort but actually to dust him. Ron & Hermione/Harry & Ginny - no brainer. Perhaps I'm wrong and HP will die so JKR doesn't have to write about him any more - I'd be fairly bored with him if I were her (although all that cash must make up for it). But there would be such an outcry if she did kill him off (remember Conan Doyle having to bring back Sherlock Holmes?) - and think about the loss of future revenues ( ): HP going to Wizard University, HP training to be an Auror and mopping up all Voldemort's supporters, HP suddenly realising that Voldemort was just the sidekick and the Most Ultimately Evil Wizard in the universe is actually Arthur Weasley, HP's children (hooray, more Hogwarts), etc. The ewoks will turn out to be in disguise from an alternate universe, possibly the Dungeon Dimensions... sorry, I'm getting my authors mixed now too.

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TheTramp The Forum Legend Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 10,470 Rep Power: 6 Reputation Total: 1692	Re: Deathly Hallows - publication date announced 1. Voldemort will come to realise that a life of evil is a bad thing, repent, and most of the book will be talking about flower-growing over tea and crumpets. 2. Snape will turn out to be Harry's father, due to a brief liaison he had with Lily just before they left Hogwarts. And the rest of the book will be about father-son bonding sessions. __________________ "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". (Attributed to Voltaire). Caveat: But reserve the right to tell you if what you say is a load of crap!

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Lounge Lizard Commercial Operator Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,434 Rep Power: 3 Reputation Total: 182	Re: Deathly Hallows - publication date announced Snape could well be a goody, dumbledore had to have a good reason to trust him, also the 'I told you so' element is so strong, making Dumbledore wrong and everyone else right - this seems out of charecter with her writing & the wise old headmaster. What if......? (I seem to remember harry was not the first infant he attacked), What if at this time, Voldemort killed one of Snapes young relatives, possibly a son no one knew about if this is the case that would give Dumbledore good reason to trust him. (who would the mother be) If this the last Book, Harry has to die, then the story can end - or become a spin off mini series on Sky One If he does not return to Hogwarts, where will the central location be and will we see a bunch of new wizards. can't wait p

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Little Yellow Fish Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 185 Rep Power: 2 Reputation Total: 53	Re: Deathly Hallows - publication date announced ANybody have any ideas about who RAB is? You know, from the necklace horcrux in the cave? I'm thinking Regulus Black, as we all remember the fabulous Sirius telling Harry that his brother was killed by Voldemort himself, but doubts he was important enough... I don't think JK would be cruel enough to kill off both of Harry's parents, Sirius, Dumbledore and Ron. That would just be too much for one wee guy to handle. I dont think Harry will die. I think that he will survive and JK will write more books in the future about his fight to remove the Death Eaters as an auror. She hinted last year some time that she might write another book for charity xx

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Mezzosoprano Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: in a world of my own... where people are nice and there's lots of honey! Posts: 1,007 Rep Power: 1 Reputation Total: 192	Harry Potter and the final book! The publication is iminent (well, July anyway) of the last Harry Potter book so I wondered if anyone else would be reserving a copy - also, rumour has it that a couple of major characters are going to get bumped off... so who might it be and why??? Couple of Bertie Botts Beans of Every Flavour for anyone? Just realised that this should probably be in the book club bit.... dozey idiot that I am Last edited by Mezzosoprano : 16th-February-2007 at 09:58 PM. Reason: add comment

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Dreadful Scathe Papa Smurf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Planet Scathe Posts: 9,788 Rep Power: 7 Reputation Total: 2273	Re: Deathly Hallows - publication date announced Harry dies at the end, but somehow lives on in some weird magical way. Snape is a plant to confuse the deatheaters, and a good guy. Dumbledore is not dead. People discover this is a childrens book. __________________ "defiantly a pork soared" -fletch "This is a discussion forum, not some sort of hippy poetry-reading commune" - TAFKADJ

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Dreadful Scathe Papa Smurf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Planet Scathe Posts: 9,788 Rep Power: 7 Reputation Total: 2273	Re: Deathly Hallows - publication date announced what do you mean "if" , she will, theres no doubt about it __________________ "defiantly a pork soared" -fletch "This is a discussion forum, not some sort of hippy poetry-reading commune" - TAFKADJ

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Barry Shnikov Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southampton Posts: 5,713 Rep Power: 4 Reputation Total: 1170	Re: Deathly Hallows - publication date announced I refer to my previous post on the subject of the pre-publication forum dizziness for the last book.

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purpleheather Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Growing on Scottish hillsides. Posts: 260 Rep Power: 1 Reputation Total: 127	Re: Deathly Hallows - publication date announced Regulus Black does seem to be the obvious choice for RAB. But equally, it could be some character who hasn't been mentioned yet. Doubtless Harry will spend part of the book looking for RAB. The other thing that probably has to be a big influence in the "final showdown" is the overwhelming power of love. JKR has always had that as a major influence in the books. E.g. vol 1, HP's protection against Voldemort is that his mother died to save him, which can only be neutralised (but only to a degree) in HP4 by Voldemort using some of HP's blood for his regeneration, but even that notwithstanding, in HP5 and HP6, the protection given to HP by the fact that his mother died out of love to save him is preserved at the place where his mother's blood dwells... etc etc. Also in HP5, what drives Voldemort out when he tries to possess HP is when HP feels joy (deriving from his love for Sirius) at the thought of death reuniting him with Sirius. And Dumbledore keeps yakking on about "love" being the power "which the Dark Lord knows not...." And so on and so on.... So, my feeling is that the final battle will somehow involve Voldemort's power being defeated love.... maybe someone sacrificing themselves out of love (but that is a bit reminiscent of the first volume, Harry's mother etc...) After the various horcruxes have been dealt with, of course.