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Old 3rd-August-2004, 12:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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To Love or Not to Love

Rambling thought while trying to focus on doing some proper work.

Having seen the angiush a few mates have gone through recently I was reflecting on that hackneyed phrase:
"Its better to have loved and lost than ne'er to have loved at all"
From my current obervations I would have to firmly disagree with that statement.
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Rambling thought while trying to focus on doing some proper work.

Having seen the angiush a few mates have gone through recently I was reflecting on that hackneyed phrase:
"Its better to have loved and lost than ne'er to have loved at all"
From my current obervations I would have to firmly disagree with that statement.
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The phrase does have some merit.

I would like to think that love should be the conserve of every human at sometime in their life.

Unfortunately the love you hold for a person may 1. not always be returned or 2. be returned but not forever.

There is one thing you cannot do in life and that it to force someone to love you.

If your love is unreturned then it hurts but that is life.

If your love is returned but subsequently ends then as much as that hurts its life too.

When we are all old and sitting on the veranda in a rocking chair I'm sure the person who loved and had it returned even for a short period of their life may feel more fondly about their life than any soul who never ever had his/her love returned.

Probably a bit deep!

Love for everyone! I'll vote for that!
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Love for everyone! I'll vote for that! :

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"Its better to have loved and lost than ne'er to have loved at all"
From my current obervations I would have to firmly disagree with that statement.
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Totally pointless question, mate. You don't decide to love - it happens & there's not much you can do to change it - so why worry which is best?
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Re: To Love or Not to Love

"Its better to have loved and lost than ne'er to have loved at all"


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Love every time. Its so much more fun when the worlds being nice to each other.

Cry you cry alone,
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Re: To Love or Not to Love

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You don't decide to love - it happens

...or it doesn't.
If it does, then no matter how much it may hurt if/when it ends I think your life is richer for the experience.
If it doesn't, well then it doesn't, and I guess you're none the wiser.
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Totally pointless question, mate. You don't decide to love - it happens & there's not much you can do to change it - so why worry which is best?
I agree, it's one thing you don't have a choice in!

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Unfortunately the love you hold for a person may 1. not always be returned or 2. be returned but not forever.

There is one thing you cannot do in life and that it to force someone to love you.

If your love is unreturned then it hurts but that is life.

If your love is returned but subsequently ends then as much as that hurts its life too.

When we are all old and sitting on the veranda in a rocking chair I'm sure the person who loved and had it returned even for a short period of their life may feel more fondly about their life than any soul who never ever had his/her love returned.


Have been around for some time and had my fair share of girlfriends over the years. Whilst I have always cared for, and been faithful to said girlfriends, only a select few have really got under my skin to the point where I have truly loved them, body and soul. One broke my heart totally and subsequently completely disappeared off the scope. I still think of her. The other two have become dear and cherished friends. In spite of all the pain engendered, I wouldn't have missed the experience for the world and am both grateful and the richer for it.
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.....only a select few have really got under my skin to the point where I have truly loved them, body and soul.
And if someone could define the difference between infatuation and love.....
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And if someone could define the difference between infatuation and love.....
It's probably something you can only tell with hindsight.

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When we are all old and sitting on the veranda in a rocking chair I'm sure the person who loved and had it returned even for a short period of their life may feel more fondly about their life than any soul who never ever had his/her love returned.
Spot on UP. Reminds me of the Philofos... Filosof... Phlos... Clever bloke called Bertrand Russell who nailed it down thus:- "To fear love is to fear life and those that fear life are three parts dead already." I fall in love about three times a week on average. Right now I'm in love with BARDSEY (Blessings be upon her) because she took my virginity.
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Re: To Love or Not to Love

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Rambling thought while trying to focus on doing some proper work.

Having seen the angiush a few mates have gone through recently I was reflecting on that hackneyed phrase:
"Its better to have loved and lost than ne'er to have loved at all"
From my current obervations I would have to firmly disagree with that statement.
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Can anyone really know as they appear to be mutually exclusive states of being?
Once you have loved and lost you have no way of knowing if it would feel better ne'er to have loved at all and if you've ne'er loved, you have no way of knowing if you would feel better having loved and lost.

Try "lost" as in "he/she disappeared" and you'll hurt.
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"Its better to have loved and lost than ne'er to have loved at all"
This is, of course, completely true.

You will have known love in your life.

You might have known many other emotions more strongly because of that love - and some of them could have caused you pain you would otherwise not have felt. But at one time, no matter how briefly, you knew love. And that is what this phrase means.
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Re: To Love or Not to Love

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And if someone could define the difference between infatuation and love.....
Infatuation is merely a symptom of love

Love's like the measles - all the worse when it comes late in life.

When you fish for love, bait with your heart, not your brain.
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I put this forum in the 10 things I love

And this tread confirms it

What a wonderful bunch you are

Sometimes, one wonders if you’re alone in your thoughts

But quote like

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Definately to love......

Whether its true love or pure infatuation. Returned or not...What would life be without it.
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Definately to love......

Whether its true love or pure infatuation. Returned or not...What would life be without it.
Exactly.....LOVE for all I'll vote for that.
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