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Old 20th-February-2005, 01:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Why women should stay at home looking after children

Here's a curve ball.

Why women should stay at home looking after children

It's down to economics.

The price of property is determined by the available cash chasing the available property. Recently the availability of cheap mortgage credit has fueled a surge in house prices, making home ownership unaffordable for first time, local buyers throughout the UK.

To reduce this price bubble one needs to decrease the money chasing property by either increasing interest rates or reducing the available income.

Increasing interest rates would damage business.

Hence, if women stayed at home their contribution to the household income would disappear and the money chasing property would fall.

Ergo house prices would fall to a level that childless, young couples and singles could afford.

Also there would be a social benefit to the country from the improvement in the quality of child care and a reduction in the stress on women having to be everything to everyone.


Flame away.

I suppose an alternative would be to go all Scandinavian and let the women have 'em and the men look after them.
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Re: Why women should stay at home looking after children

Better still, to not have children at all...

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Hence, if women stayed at home their contribution to the household income would disappear and the money chasing property would fall.


I suppose an alternative would be to go all Scandinavian and let the women have 'em and the men look after them.

Think I prefer the Scandinavian alternative
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Re: Why women should stay at home looking after children

at this point i would like to state that i am single, childless and young and i have bought my own house! therefore i am going to disagree with you clive....sorry!
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If my wife could earn more than me, (and I could breast-feed ) I wold quite happily stay at home and look after the kids: it's not really a woman/man divide - it's one partner from a couple.
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at this point i would like to state that i am single, childless and young and i have bought my own house! therefore i am going to disagree with you clive....sorry!
me too! there's not many of us left.....
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Re: Why women should stay at home looking after children

If people spent more money on dance events, then they'd be poorer, so house prices would fall.
Also, they'd be spending less time at home, so they wouldn't care that they lived in a slum.
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Also, they'd be spending less time at home, so they wouldn't care that they lived in a slum.
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it's not really a woman/man divide - it's one partner from a couple.
absolutely!!! personally I think children need a stay at home parent (either mother or father) more than they need the things that a second income can purchase - and yes I know in some cases 2 incomes are needed for the needed things - but in a lot of cases this isn't true.
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Also, they'd be spending less time at home, so they wouldn't care that they lived in a slum.
Hey thats what i'm doing!
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If the women stayed at home to look after their babies, the little Darlings wouldn't be kennelled in nurseries every day picking up every infectious disease going, then passing it onto both parents who generously infect all their work colleagues. I really resent this.

Apparently, herpes is rife in one of our local nurseries. I didn't like to ask exactly which sort and how the babies have been transmitting it...

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If my wife could earn more than me {SNIP} I wold quite happily stay at home and look after the kids.
Funnily enough ... the one time I was living with someone and the conversation turned to long term things .. it was a given that if we had kids that I'd be the one staying at home. Knowing enough about nannies and the effect on kids, we both thought it was important to have a parent at home ... and despite having a reasonable job my partner was a high flyer in BP and was going to massively out perform my income ... so my role was going to be a home daddy .... and I must admit that the whole thing had its attractions ....aside from nappy changing .... just a shame we kind of missed out of staying together ....
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Why women should stay at home looking after children

It's down to economics . . . . .

Also there would be a social benefit to the country from the improvement in the quality of child care and a reduction in the stress on women having to be everything to everyone.
What a load of rubbish


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Better still, to not have children at all...
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it's not really a woman/man divide - it's one partner from a couple.
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If people spent more money on dance events, then they'd be poorer, so house prices would fall.
Also, they'd be spending less time at home, so they wouldn't care that they lived in a slum.
I know you're not being serious Martin


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If the women stayed at home to look after their babies, the little Darlings wouldn't be kennelled in nurseries every day picking up every infectious disease going, then passing it onto both parents who generously infect all their work colleagues. I really resent this.
Isn't this just abit over the top? When you are 90 years old who do you think is going to look after you and wipe your nose? Answer = the children of these parents you resent so much!


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Apparently, herpes is rife in one of our local nurseries. I didn't like to ask exactly which sort and how the babies have been transmitting it...
Well, if thats true - how do you think the babies have been transmitting it - do you not think it is more likely to be the staff who are transmitting it from baby to baby??


As for children suffering because they go to nursery instead of being looked after by a parent at home well thats a load of twaddle. There are many studies which have shown this not to be the case.

Remember not all parents have a choice about whether to stay at home or go out to work. There are many single parents out there who have to go out to work in order to pay the mortgage.

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.... and I must admit that the whole thing had its attractions ....aside from nappy changing
If kids could stay between about 2 y.o. and 4 y.o. - when the "smelly business" is all sorted but everything in the world is a delight and they haven't got all self-conscious - then I'll join your stay-at-home father's union Gus.

I spent sometime with my twin nephews (want to see a few hundred photos of them?) over the weekend, watched Fireman Sam, played snakes-and-ladders, pointed at the sky etc. etc. The standard of conversation I get with them is far beyond most of what I endure.

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.... just a shame we kind of missed out of staying together ....
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Re: Why women should stay at home looking after children

I've always been a stay at home mum and I wouldn't have swapped it for the world, I'd have hated someone else telling me what my kids have done during the day and hated handing over my responsibility to someone else. I've enjoyed every moment and I feel proud of the job i've done!

I do realise I'm very lucky to have had the choice and I also respect other woman who choose not to stay at home.

I've seen friends of mine struggle emotionally when they've had to put their careers on hold, they seem to feel less important somehow and need to be able to prove themselves as independent wage earners to gain the respect of others.

I personally felt the opposite, I felt my roll as a mum was 'very important' I was proud to be involved in all the school activities, I felt privileged to be able to accompany my kids on their numerous school outings and I definitely learnt more this time round than i ever did when I was at school and I know my kids were glad I was there!

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Why women should stay at home looking after children

It's down to economics . . . . .

Also there would be a social benefit to the country from the improvement in the quality of child care and a reduction in the stress on women having to be everything to everyone.

What a load of rubbish
And your counter-argument is ......
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And your counter-argument is ......
You are making alot of assumptions here.
Eg. that there would be an improvement in the quality of childcare,
that that would be a social benefit to the country,
that not going out to work and staying at home would decrease stress for women . . .
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Re: Why women should stay at home looking after children

To try and understand property prices you need to Karl Marks Das Capital

No need to read the whole book you can find a summery in

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...104088-4445249

PS did you know, taking a global, view women do 75 % all work
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