Hammersmith DVD 2005

[DavidY]

Originally Posted by ElaineB on "Blackpool Vid" thread

What about Hammersmith video...?

.. so I got home tonight and saw a DVD shaped jiffy bag with Ceroc logo. That looks like the Hammersmith DVD I ordered, I thought..

..but no. It wasn't the Hammersmith DVD. Nor (according to the letter contained therein) will there be one.

Am feeling a bit gutted because, amongst other things:
(a) I would have loved to see the "Art of Noise" showcase again and
(b) For once I got through a few rounds in the Lucky Dip - never got as far before and I probably never will again, so was really looking forward to having the DVD as a souvenir.

Oh and why was the package DVD shaped? Well I'm now the proud owner of a complimentary copy of "Shall We Dance" starring Richard Gere.

[ElaineB]

2005 not being produced? That is awful!!

Simon and I made it through to the Semi's of the Advanced and really wanted a copy for posterity!

Elaine

[Gus]

Originally Posted by ElaineB

2005 not being produced? That is awful!!

Simon and I made it through to the Semi's of the Advanced and really wanted a copy for posterity!

Elaine

Agree. That is APPALLING! How can you run an event that some many peoples dreams are resting on, ban them from videoing, then make sure such memories are lost for ever???? I've tried to be supportive of Ceroc for their endeavours to improve the competition but if this is true they should get totally slated for this! If the 'little' competitions can get thuis right, how can an organisation like Ceroc screw up so badly?

Andy where are you?

[DavidY]

Originally Posted by Gus

if this is true

More detail...

Originally Posted by Letter to me from Ceroc Head Office

Re: Champs 2005 DVD
We regretfully announce that the Champs 2005 DVD has been withdrawn from sale.
Due to unforeseen circumstances the supplier has been unable to complete production of this year's Championship DVD.
The information comes further to our correspondence in June when we had anticipated the release of this item to be at the end of July.
The problem occurred in the last stages of production and the supplier made all attempts to salvage the project. But unfortunately we have now had to cancel the entire order.
It is of great disappointment that we are not able to offer a souvenir of this year's competition.
Refunds
Payments made via credit card have not been processed.
Any payments made via cash on the day of the competition will be refunded the full amount via cheque.
Please find enclosed a complimentary copy of this years Shall We Dance film, staring Richard Gere, Susan Sarandon and Jennifer Lopez.
We are sorry for any disappointment and inconvenience you have been caused.
Next year the videoing of the event will be totally reviewed.

[Minnie M]

The same thing happend with JATW abut 4 years ago. I was so gutted as I featured dancing with the very special Dawn Hampton

I was given a voucher and an apology for the full value I had given them to spend on another JATW - I haven't been there again and have now lost the voucher Double loss for me but totally, totally gutted no DVD

For the price we pay - why can't they get a true professional

[Lory]

I agree it's awful but I bet they're just as upset about it as everyone else!

I'm sure they wouldn't be doing it on purpose!

My daughter had the same thing happen when she produced a film for her A' level media, all her hard work, months of research, planning, filming on location, interviews and editing, amounted to NOTHING when the system she was working on at school crashed!

The school tried everything in their power to retrieve it, even getting in specialist Apple Mac technicians but to no avail.

Luckily for her, each stage of the work had been marked as she went along, it was just the final finished product that she lost but I can tell you, it was heartbreaking!

As the saying goes... Sh*t happens!

[ElaineB]

Solution!!!

Get yer butts to the competition at Weston-Super-Mare next year! I have just been reviewing the DVD, which has been produced in 2 weeks and 4 days! I think it is due to be on general release after the week-end! I think Brighton came out quickly as well last year.


Elaine

[Gus]

Originally Posted by Gus

Agree. That is APPALLING! How can you run an event that some many peoples dreams are resting on, ban them from videoing, then make sure such memories are lost for ever????

Originally Posted by Letter to me from Ceroc Head Office
Re: Champs 2005 DVD
We regretfully announce that the Champs 2005 DVD has been withdrawn from sale.
Due to unforeseen circumstances the supplier has been unable to complete production of this year's Championship DVD......It is of great disappointment that we are not able to offer a souvenir of this year's competition.

OK ... fair cop. Apologies for impugning Ceroc ... looks like they were caught out like everyone else. Here's hoping that future supplier selection is a bit more rigourous next year

[Just Wiggle]

OOppps...I should really scoll down the page before starting a new thread!

Still pants though......

Wanted a reminder of the fact that I managed to bag Groovy Dancer in the lucky dip and get 2nd!

Don't think my luck will stretch to next year!!

[Andy McGregor]

Originally Posted by Gus

Andy where are you?

Here I am (I've been busy with work stuff). I have to say that you are sometimes unlucky with your choice of supplier. However, for Ceroc to continue to use the company that took over 8 months to produce last year's video was a questionable decision. Especially so when I know that they were approached by the company that produced the Britroc and WSM videos in mere weeks.

And, I find it hard to believe that the original tapes/DVDs or whatever was in the camera have been lost. I'm just guessing but it strikes me that the production company had no will to complete this project rather than anything else. My advice to Ceroc would be to examine their contract with Jellybean very carefully. The reputation of the Ceroc Champs has been damaged by the failure of their supplier - if I were Mike Ellard I would be speaking with my solicitor

[cerocmetro]

Originally Posted by ElaineB

Solution!!!

Get yer butts to the competition at Weston-Super-Mare next year! I have just been reviewing the DVD, which has been produced in 2 weeks and 4 days! I think it is due to be on general release after the week-end! I think Brighton came out quickly as well last year.


Elaine

Jive Masters DVD 48 hours

Of course the Champs video was as a disaster but it is not their fault. Ceroc has too many people who at the slightest opportunity jump down their throats. stop it don't gloat.

As Lory said, they (HQ) are as gutted as anyone else.

Actually, I have seen at least 4 videos from the champs. I have videod there every year for the past 5. They are probably the most relaxed of any organisation about videoing. I am also sure that the people who have lost out could be helped by a few forumites who did video it. I know 2 of you have shown me your videos

[Andy McGregor]

Originally Posted by cerocmetro

Ceroc has too many people who at the slightest opportunity jump down their throats. stop it don't gloat.

And the reason for not gloating is? This brings us onto the question of why Ceroc has "has too many people who at the slightest opportunity jump down their throats"? Anyone got any suggestions as to why so many people feel that way about Ceroc? And, finally, why Adam thinks there is this high number of people who will gloat?

I'm still not convinced about the total loss of the original "rushes" as the AV industry calls them - the actual, original, that was in the camera. The only thing I can think of is that the production company had a fire. And, as that is a fine reason for the total loss, it would have been given to those concerned. It was not given as the reason, no reason was given at all!!! So, in the absence of a fire, what was the excuse of the company?

[Mary]

I am shocked by this as well. OK, it's not Ceroc HQ's total fault and I'm sure they are gutted, as it reflects badly on them as a company, but why did they continue to use a company who have produced such a sloppy, and poor product for them in the past, when there are other companys out there who have a proven track record for doing a creditable and efficient job?

As for Jellybean - I am speechless. As Andy rightly says there should be no reason why the original rushes would be lost except in the event of a natural disaster. The original rushes (americans call them 'dailies') are copied and then not touched again - unless you are originating on film when you do a 'neg. cut' once the final edit has been approved.

M

[bigdjiver]

Originally Posted by cerocmetro

Jive Masters DVD 48 hours

Of course the Champs video was as a disaster but it is not their fault. Ceroc has too many people who at the slightest opportunity jump down their throats. stop it don't gloat.

As Lory said, they (HQ) are as gutted as anyone else.

Actually, I have seen at least 4 videos from the champs. I have videod there every year for the past 5. They are probably the most relaxed of any organisation about videoing. I am also sure that the people who have lost out could be helped by a few forumites who did video it. I know 2 of you have shown me your videos

2005 reconstructed? Sounds good to me as one answer to "but what good is the forum?"

Seriously, some serious effort should be made to collate and preserve whatever can be saved. We only have to look at the reverance that the old Lindy clips are held in. When we get to old to dance ... When our grandchildren ask "How was in then ..."

[El Salsero Gringo]

Originally Posted by cerocmetro

Of course the Champs video was as a disaster but it is not their fault. Ceroc has too many people who at the slightest opportunity jump down their throats. stop it don't gloat.

As Lory said, they (HQ) are as gutted as anyone else.

An interesting new angle on this is that I spoke to someone last night who claims to have seen the completed Champs video, and the reason that it hasn't been released is because of a financial dispute between the production company and Ceroc HQ.

Somebody, somewhere, is telling porkies.

[David Bailey]

Originally Posted by El Salsero Gringo

An interesting new angle on this is that I spoke to someone last night who claims to have seen the completed Champs video, and the reason that it hasn't been released is because of a financial dispute between the production company and Ceroc HQ.

Ooh, even if it's not true, that's a great rumour - there'll be rumours floating around now for years about the Lost Champs DVD.

A bit like the Lost Dr Who Episodes, but with better dancers.

[David Franklin]

Originally Posted by DavidJames

Ooh, even if it's not true, that's a great rumour - there'll be rumours floating around now for years about the Lost Champs DVD.

A bit like the Lost Dr Who Episodes, but with better dancers.

Actually, I heard Davros and K9 did a wicked cabaret in one of those episodes...

[Donna]

You know...July last year, I picked up the Ceroc 2003 DVD from Nantwich and thought woooowwww!!! Absolutely aammaaazing...I would just love to give it a whirl and try to achieve something.

I started to improve on my dancing and had some helpful tips off some competitors including Lily B. Even though I was convinced that the chances of me entering a big competition like that were very very slim...(as I was no where near ready) I thought forget it, and thought nothing more of it for months. Then when I met my partner, we decided to do it together which was rather exciting but I never thought with me we would get anywhere and just put it all down to experience.


A year after watching that DVD, I won third place in advanced
with Steve (my first ever dance comp) and was looking forward to being able to see it again on DVD....but how unlucky...it turns out that it couldn't be produced. I'm just sooo upset and I can't bare thinking about what's happened.

[Mary]

Originally Posted by El Salsero Gringo

An interesting new angle on this is that I spoke to someone last night who claims to have seen the completed Champs video, and the reason that it hasn't been released is because of a financial dispute between the production company and Ceroc HQ.

Somebody, somewhere, is telling porkies.

And I would like to offer an apology to Jellybean for jumping to the wrong conclusions and putting them in a bad light for the wrong reasons. I don't think their previous products were that great, but I was wrong to accuse them of such gross unprofessionalism.

M

[El Salsero Gringo]

Originally Posted by Mary

And I would like to offer an apology to Jellybean for jumping to the wrong conclusions and putting them in a bad light for the wrong reasons. I don't think their previous products were that great, but I was wrong to accuse them of such gross unprofessionalism.

M

I didn't order the DVD, and I'm not in it - but if I were interested to find out what happened I'd contact Jellybean direct and ask what's going on.

(of course then I'd come back and tell all my Forum friends what they said.)