Rep re-set? - Page 9

**Beowulf** · 8th-November-2007, 03:40 PM

I wouldn't be opposed to a rep re-set either. It's rather inflated and meaningless really. Nice to get comments about posts but the actuall score means nothing really.

David Franklin · 8th-November-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf1970

I wouldn't be opposed to a rep re-set either. It's rather inflated and meaningless really. Nice to get comments about posts but the actuall score means nothing really.

Only problem with a rep re-set is that newbies come along and see "DavidJames: 10000 posts over 5 years, but only 27 rep. Obviously rarely posts anything of worth".

And newbies should have to lurk ages before coming to that conclusion...

**David Bailey** · 8th-November-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by David Franklin

Only problem with a rep re-set is that newbies come along and see "DavidJames: 10000 posts over 5 years, but only 27 rep. Obviously rarely posts anything of worth".

And newbies should have to lurk ages before coming to that conclusion...

True. We should probably have a post reset as well. In fact, let's just kill all the stats altogether.

Connie · 8th-November-2007, 03:59 PM

If there has to be rep at all (still dont see a need for it) wouldnt it be more accurate if the rep was calculated as a procentage of the amount of posts the individual had made?

The procentage could then equate to one of 5 levels of rep.......

**Stuart M** · 9th-November-2007, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Connie

If there has to be rep at all (still dont see a need for it) wouldnt it be more accurate if the rep was calculated as a procentage of the amount of posts the individual had made?

The procentage could then equate to one of 5 levels of rep.......

Sounds like a good idea, assuming you mean percentage (for a moment I thought "procentage" was some esoteric statistical term, but googling it only came up with about 7000 typos for percentage, and no distinct definition).

**DavidY** · 9th-November-2007, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Connie

If there has to be rep at all (still dont see a need for it) wouldnt it be more accurate if the rep was calculated as a procentage of the amount of posts the individual had made?

Not for everybody- posts are counted since you joined the forum, but rep is only counted since the last rep reset. There wasn't always a rep system either, so any posts I made in 2003, for instance, have no realistic prospect of being "repped".

My favourite suggestion (can't remember who made it) is to have a system where rep "decays" so the most recent posts count most.

You could do really complex stuff with "half-life" rules but a simple rule would be to only look back at the last 6 months (on a rolling basis).

So for instance if you counted "rep points in the last 6 months" (and if you wanted a percentage, "posts made in the last 6 months" as a denominator) then you could have a more realistic count of who's contributed recently.

I don't know if the forum software allows anything that sophisticated though.

**David Bailey** · 9th-November-2007, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidY

My favourite suggestion (can't remember who made it) is to have a system where rep "decays" so the most recent posts count most.

That was me! I think - could have been ESG, but I do remember it... I think it was a "1% per week" thing - but I suspect that's practically impossible to implement.

**Caro** · 9th-November-2007, 09:31 AM

I don't want a rep re-set.

I'm a few days away from my 2nd rep power point and a few more rep points away from my third... So as usual I suspect as soon as I reach one of them, Franck will change everything and I'll get back to 1. So unfair

David Franklin · 9th-November-2007, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidJames

That was me! I think - could have been ESG, but I do remember it... I think it was a "1% per week" thing - but I suspect that's practically impossible to implement.

I don't see why it would be any significantly harder than any of the other options.

stewart38 · 9th-November-2007, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf1970

I wouldn't be opposed to a rep re-set either. It's rather inflated and meaningless really. Nice to get comments about posts but the actuall score means nothing really.

It kind of suggests how 'impotant' your contribution to the forum has been over the years to me

wether by joke, fact,help etc etc

I cant see it being meaningless ?

A decreasing rep score may create more rep tarts

I dont give much rep out but when I do I always tend to get some back

**David Bailey** · 9th-November-2007, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by David Franklin

I don't see why it would be any significantly harder than any of the other options.

Lots of calculation involved - rounding etc. - plus a regular systems admin task to set up.

Whereas a re-set is simple, and it has precedent.

Although possibly I'm just motivated by anticipating the howls of anguish coming from people like Caro.

David Franklin · 9th-November-2007, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidJames

Lots of calculation involved - rounding etc. - plus a regular systems admin task to set up.

new_rep = floor(old_rep * .99 +.5) is hardly "lots of calculation". I know that Franck occasionally does a "recalc rep from scratch rather than use running totals", and it would be a little tricky to keep that consistent. But then the whole point of that recalc is to fix errors in the running totals, so if they don't match perfectly it's hardly the end of the world.

Yeah, you'd have to run it once a week, but I can't see that as much of a problem.

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Whereas a re-set is simple, and it has precedent.

True. What would be nice (but is probably not simple) is a way of knowing how many posts someone has made since the last reset. Given that we have had certain posters claiming "My posts have more support that yours, because I've got 200 rep in the 3 months I've been here and you only have 2000 rep over 5 years".

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Although possibly I'm just motivated by anticipating the howls of anguish coming from people like Caro.

Are you related to Catbert by any chance?

**Caro** · 9th-November-2007, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidJames

Although possibly I'm just motivated by anticipating the howls of anguish coming from people like Caro.

yeah, right, like you don't look at your rep score... if I was bored I'd link to all the threads you have created on the subject of rep...

DJ, rep-obsessed moderator ?

**David Bailey** · 9th-November-2007, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Caro

yeah, right, like you don't look at your rep score... if I was bored I'd link to all the threads you have created on the subject of rep...

DJ, rep-obsessed moderator ?

I'm obsessed with getting rid of it, does that count?

**Twirly** · 9th-November-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidJames

I'm obsessed with getting rid of it, does that count?

Is that an invitation to everyone to neg rep you?

**Dreadful Scathe** · 9th-November-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Caro

yeah, right, like you don't look at your rep score...

He probably doesn't

**Caro** · 9th-November-2007, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dreadful Scathe

He probably doesn't

clearly not

View Poll Results: Rep re-set?
Yes: back to 10 for everyone, effective Jan 1st	3	9.09%
No: it's fine as it is, and Franck's got enough on his plate already	14	42.42%
Don't care: you spend too much time worrying about this	7	21.21%
Yes: re-set DavidJames' rep only, see how he likes it	7	21.21%
Clicky-clicky, me likey...	2	6.06%
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8th-November-2007, 03:40 PM	#161 (permalink)
Beowulf Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London Posts: 7,179 Status: Sans PC Rep Power: 5 Rep.: 1808	Re: Rep re-set? I wouldn't be opposed to a rep re-set either. It's rather inflated and meaningless really. Nice to get comments about posts but the actuall score means nothing really. __________________ "Makes a soft mint look hard" - Twirly

8th-November-2007, 03:59 PM	#164 (permalink)
Connie Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sutton, Surrey Posts: 349 Status: No Status Rep Power: 1 Rep.: 180	Re: Rep re-set? If there has to be rep at all (still dont see a need for it) wouldnt it be more accurate if the rep was calculated as a procentage of the amount of posts the individual had made? The procentage could then equate to one of 5 levels of rep.......

9th-November-2007, 09:31 AM	#168 (permalink)
Caro Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London Posts: 2,392 Status: No Status Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 3 Rep.: 1569	Re: Rep re-set? I don't want a rep re-set. I'm a few days away from my 2nd rep power point and a few more rep points away from my third... So as usual I suspect as soon as I reach one of them, Franck will change everything and I'll get back to 1. So unfair __________________ . Little Miss Whipme

9th-November-2007, 11:15 AM	#178 (permalink)
David Bailey Formerly known as DavidJames Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norf Lundin Posts: 14,350 Status: Yes Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 8 Rep.: 3872	Re: Rep re-set?