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Old 4th-July-2005, 01:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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windows\system32 HELP

Can't open some programmes on my computer it comes up with this message

c:windows\system32\autoexec.nt

Can anyone help me please. Need to do my accounts but can't open the programme & haven't saved them
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Re: windows\system32 HELP

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Can't open some programmes on my computer it comes up with this message

c:windows\system32\autoexec.nt

Can anyone help me please. Need to do my accounts but can't open the programme & haven't saved them
Try lookin here

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Thanks, have had a go but it's not working still, either that or i've done it wrong, very possible. It can't find the path names??
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Re: windows\system32 HELP

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Thanks, have had a go but it's not working still, either that or i've done it wrong, very possible. It can't find the path names??
Autoexec.nt is a sort of program startup file for older programs - how old is the program you are trying to run ?

It could also be that the file simply doesn't exist so you need to "expand" it from your original windows xp disks - or ask someone to email it to you !
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Re: windows\system32 HELP

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Autoexec.nt is a sort of program startup file for older programs - how old is the program you are trying to run ?

It could also be that the file simply doesn't exist so you need to "expand" it from your original windows xp disks - or ask someone to email it to you !
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It is an old programme, but i've been using it on this computer for ages, last used it a few weeks ago, so can't understand why it has suddenly stopped working.
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Re: windows\system32 HELP

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It is an old programme, but i've been using it on this computer for ages, last used it a few weeks ago, so can't understand why it has suddenly stopped working.
Have you downloaded or installed *any* new programs since the last time you used it?
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It is an old programme, but i've been using it on this computer for ages, last used it a few weeks ago, so can't understand why it has suddenly stopped working.
Probably messed up a shortcut somewhere:
You need to know the name of the application and/or the manufacturer (Eg Sage, Line50)
go to "My Computer", double click on "Local Disk ( C: )", double click on the folder "Program Files", find the folder that should contain the application you want (eg "Sage") and then find the program name with a ".exe" extrension (eg "line50.exe") {The '.exe' will only show if 'hide known extensions' is un-ticked from the view options under the 'view' menu}

If you can double click on this and it works, then simply use the right hand mouse button to drag it to the desktop and "create a shortcut here" (r-click and re-name it to something more intuative)

If you can't find it in the "program files" folder, the folder may just be in the root ( C: ).

If double clicking on the .exe dosn't work, then you probably need to set some variables for it to work properly: look for another file like "start" or with the same name as the EXE, except with a ".bat" extension. Try double clicking on this. {<- make sure you are in the correct folder - lots of programs use this name/method and you could re-install something by accident and loose some settings}
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Re: windows\system32 HELP

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Have you downloaded or installed *any* new programs since the last time you used it?

Not that i can think of but windows automatically updates, would that have done anything?
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Re: windows\system32 HELP

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Probably messed up a shortcut somewhere:
You need to know the name of the application and/or the manufacturer (Eg Sage, Line50)
go to "My Computer", double click on "Local Disk ( C: )", double click on the folder "Program Files", find the folder that should contain the application you want (eg "Sage") and then find the program name with a ".exe" extrension (eg "line50.exe") {The '.exe' will only show if 'hide known extensions' is un-ticked from the view options under the 'view' menu}

If you can double click on this and it works, then simply use the right hand mouse button to drag it to the desktop and "create a shortcut here" (r-click and re-name it to something more intuative)

If you can't find it in the "program files" folder, the folder may just be in the root ( C: ).

If double clicking on the .exe dosn't work, then you probably need to set some variables for it to work properly: look for another file like "start" or with the same name as the EXE, except with a ".bat" extension. Try double clicking on this. {<- make sure you are in the correct folder - lots of programs use this name/method and you could re-install something by accident and loose some settings}

Will have to print that lot off & try. Got Line 50 but that's ok I've tried it. My personal stuff (which i can't open) is on Money Manager, software on diskettes.

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Re: windows\system32 HELP

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Probably messed up a shortcut somewhere:
You need to know the name of the application and/or the manufacturer (Eg Sage, Line50)
go to "My Computer", double click on "Local Disk ( C: )", double click on the folder "Program Files", find the folder that should contain the application you want (eg "Sage") and then find the program name with a ".exe" extrension (eg "line50.exe") {The '.exe' will only show if 'hide known extensions' is un-ticked from the view options under the 'view' menu}

If you can double click on this and it works, then simply use the right hand mouse button to drag it to the desktop and "create a shortcut here" (r-click and re-name it to something more intuative)

If you can't find it in the "program files" folder, the folder may just be in the root ( C: ).

If double clicking on the .exe dosn't work, then you probably need to set some variables for it to work properly: look for another file like "start" or with the same name as the EXE, except with a ".bat" extension. Try double clicking on this. {<- make sure you are in the correct folder - lots of programs use this name/method and you could re-install something by accident and loose some settings}

All i can see are .DLL no .EXE nor .BAT extensions
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Re: windows\system32 HELP

put diskette in.
clicked on start
run
browsed a:
it shows setup, clicked on that & looked at its properties
it says in compatibility that you can set it to run in compatibilty mode for various windows i.e. 95 or 98 or 2000 or NT 4.0 (service pack 5).

I've had this running on NT for nearly a year. The NT windows option is : windows NT 4.0 (service pack5). How do i know what mode to run it in?
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Re: windows\system32 HELP

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It is an old programme, but i've been using it on this computer for ages, last used it a few weeks ago, so can't understand why it has suddenly stopped working.
I've seen this something similar with autoexec.nt going corrupt with no obvious reason on a stable system.

The useful link posted by Northants Girly while correct seems very hard to read and follow and perhaps it doesn't need to be that complex.


If you try the following step below it might make it clearer what the problem still is ( please ignore it if it is obvious to you, or it is something you've already tried ).

If you go the "Run" dialog box by using the "Start Menu" or "Windows Key-R" and type exactly "notepad.exe %systemroot%\system32\autoexec.nt" ( without the quotes ) what do you see ?


Is it something like this (below), or do you get "Cannot Find File" or do you get lots of random text.



@echo off

REM AUTOEXEC.BAT is not used to initialize the MS-DOS environment.
REM AUTOEXEC.NT is used to initialize the MS-DOS environment unless a
REM different startup file is specified in an application's PIF.

REM Install CD ROM extensions
lh %SystemRoot%\system32\mscdexnt.exe

REM Install network redirector (load before dosx.exe)
lh %SystemRoot%\system32\redir

REM Install DPMI support
lh %SystemRoot%\system32\dosx
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apologies, running XP not NT, but did try & set is as windows 98 coz that's what i had on my last computer
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Re: windows\system32 HELP

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I've seen this something similar with autoexec.nt going corrupt with no obvious reason on a stable system.

The useful link posted by Northants Girly while correct seems very hard to read and follow and perhaps it doesn't need to be that complex.


If you try the following step below it might make it clearer what the problem still is ( please ignore it if it is obvious to you, or it is something you've already tried ).

If you go the "Run" dialog box by using the "Start Menu" or "Windows Key-R" and type exactly "notepad.exe %systemroot%\system32\autoexec.nt" ( without the quotes ) what do you see ?


Is it something like this (below), or do you get "Cannot Find File" or do you get lots of random text.



@echo off

REM AUTOEXEC.BAT is not used to initialize the MS-DOS environment.
REM AUTOEXEC.NT is used to initialize the MS-DOS environment unless a
REM different startup file is specified in an application's PIF.

REM Install CD ROM extensions
lh %SystemRoot%\system32\mscdexnt.exe

REM Install network redirector (load before dosx.exe)
lh %SystemRoot%\system32\redir

REM Install DPMI support
lh %SystemRoot%\system32\dosx


did the first bit you suggested and.........
cannot find the c:wimdows\systems32\autoexec.nt.file
do you want to create a new file (yes or no)
if you click on yes it comes up with a blank notepad page
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Yes: Copy the above (from @echo...) into it and save it.
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Re: windows\system32 HELP

tried just about everything & no joy. Even tried reloading the software & renaming it, but it won't load at all. Will have to take it in to be checked. Will let you know what happens.
Thank you for all your help.

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Re: windows\system32 HELP

Is it coming up with any error messages?
If it's an old program, you may have to run it in a "DOS shell":
R-click on the EXE, and go into "Properties". On the 'program' tab, click 'advanced...' and tic "MSDOS Mode"

If there is an error message about memory, then there are some tweaks on the "properties" that can be done to get it to work.

{Some arcane lore...
Start:run and type in "command" - this will bring up a black window with a flashing cursor and a prompt saying somthing like "c:\windows\desktop>_"
You want to navigate to the correct directory;
- Use "cd .." to go back a level {this would change the cursor to "c:\windows>_"
- Use "cd dirname" to go forward one. {this would change the cursor to "c:\windows\dirname>_"
- Use "dir *. /w/p" to list all directory folders that can be used with the "cd" command above {/w=wide /p=page pause}
- Use "dir *.exe /w/p" to see a list of all the .exe files in that directory.

To run the exe, simply type in it's name - eg "HACK" will open/run HACK.EXE
- (The tilda [~ beside the enter key] is used to shorten windows names over 8 chars and those with spaces/nonstandard chars, but if it's an old program, the file names should be <= 8 char long. If you omit the "/w" from the dir command, you will see the 'long filename' as well as the shortened one)
- Type in "Exit" to close the command window}
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Re: windows\system32 HELP

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Is it coming up with any error messages?
If it's an old program, you may have to run it in a "DOS shell":
R-click on the EXE, and go into "Properties". On the 'program' tab, click 'advanced...' and tic "MSDOS Mode"

If there is an error message about memory, then there are some tweaks on the "properties" that can be done to get it to work.

{Some arcane lore...
Start:run and type in "command" - this will bring up a black window with a flashing cursor and a prompt saying somthing like "c:\windows\desktop>_"
You want to navigate to the correct directory;
- Use "cd .." to go back a level {this would change the cursor to "c:\windows>_"
- Use "cd dirname" to go forward one. {this would change the cursor to "c:\windows\dirname>_"
- Use "dir *. /w/p" to list all directory folders that can be used with the "cd" command above {/w=wide /p=page pause}
- Use "dir *.exe /w/p" to see a list of all the .exe files in that directory.

To run the exe, simply type in it's name - eg "HACK" will open/run HACK.EXE
- (The tilda [~ beside the enter key] is used to shorten windows names over 8 chars and those with spaces/nonstandard chars, but if it's an old program, the file names should be <= 8 char long. If you omit the "/w" from the dir command, you will see the 'long filename' as well as the shortened one)
- Type in "Exit" to close the command window}

it says it's not suitable for MS Dos or windows, cannot understand what's happening
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Re: windows\system32 HELP

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Is it coming up with any error messages?
If it's an old program, you may have to run it in a "DOS shell":
R-click on the EXE, and go into "Properties". On the 'program' tab, click 'advanced...' and tic "MSDOS Mode"

If there is an error message about memory, then there are some tweaks on the "properties" that can be done to get it to work.

{Some arcane lore...
Start:run and type in "command" - this will bring up a black window with a flashing cursor and a prompt saying somthing like "c:\windows\desktop>_"
You want to navigate to the correct directory;
- Use "cd .." to go back a level {this would change the cursor to "c:\windows>_"
- Use "cd dirname" to go forward one. {this would change the cursor to "c:\windows\dirname>_"
- Use "dir *. /w/p" to list all directory folders that can be used with the "cd" command above {/w=wide /p=page pause}
- Use "dir *.exe /w/p" to see a list of all the .exe files in that directory.

To run the exe, simply type in it's name - eg "HACK" will open/run HACK.EXE
- (The tilda [~ beside the enter key] is used to shorten windows names over 8 chars and those with spaces/nonstandard chars, but if it's an old program, the file names should be <= 8 char long. If you omit the "/w" from the dir command, you will see the 'long filename' as well as the shortened one)
- Type in "Exit" to close the command window}

just done
start
run
command
enter

and it says command.com not suitable for MS Dos or Windows
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