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Old 7th-April-2006, 04:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Doh who doesn't? Digital Video Disc.
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Re: Blackpool 2006 Dvd

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Nope. Some say versatile some assume it's video. Whatever!
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So Digital Votever Disc it is then. laughing.gif
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Nope. Some say versatile some assume it's video. Whatever!
Can I assume from this that you got it wrong and after CJ's comment looked it up to get the right answer ? It is indeed Digital Versatile Disc - not 'some say it is' it IS A lot of people dont know that though
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It's "Digital Versatile Disc" or "Digital Video Disc"... Or just simply "DVD" – like many other acronyms in the ICT world, the folks who "own" the name now claim it doesn't stand for anything.

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"DVD" was originally an initialism for "Digital Video Disc." Some members of the DVD Forum believe that it should stand for "Digital Versatile Disc" to reflect its widespread use for non-video applications. Toshiba, which maintains the official DVD Forum site, adheres to the latter interpretation, and indeed this appeared within the copyright warnings on some of the earliest examples. However, the DVD Forum never reached a consensus on the matter, and so today the official name of the format is simply "DVD"; the letters do not officially stand for anything.
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Re: Blackpool 2006 Dvd

Wikipedia is wrong this time. DVD was a technology produced by Pioneer and other companies at the beginning of the 1990s.... to quote Pioneer ...

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Pioneer Corporation is a global leader in electronics and audio/video products for the home, car, commerce and industry, particularly in the two core multimedia technologies - Digital Versatile Disc (DVD) and plasma display panels (PDP)
Wikipedia also only lists the "versatile" definition as a link to the DVD article under its optical disc section which belies the wording of the actual DVD article.

And as someone who was interested in the technology at the time it was first released I know there was initially no such "video" definition and I have still yet to see one on any hardware or on any actual discs.

The clincher is the DVD Forum - the official DVD site - which wikipedia says "never reached a consensus on the matter", it has THIS on its fact page here.

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The keyword is "versatile." Digital Versatile discs provide superb video, audio and data storage and access -- all on one disc
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Re: Blackpool 2006 Dvd

Common sense says that "digital video disc" came before "digital versatile disc", otherwise they'd have called it "VDD" – versatile digital disc, or something like that...

I'd guess that "DVD" meaning "digital video disc" was used during the design by the engineers, and then the marketing folks reinvented the name.

If as Wikipedia says, the DVD Forum web page is managed by Toshiba rather than by the Forum, then you can't take for gospel everything they say as being the opinion of the DVD Forum.

Also, see here and here.
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Common sense says that "digital video disc" came before "digital versatile disc", otherwise they'd have called it "VDD" – versatile digital disc, or something like that...
Can you imagine the porn industry releasing films on VDD?
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Common sense says that "digital video disc" came before "digital versatile disc", otherwise they'd have called it "VDD" – versatile digital disc, or something like that...

I'd guess that "DVD" meaning "digital video disc" was used during the design by the engineers, and then the marketing folks reinvented the name.

If as Wikipedia says, the DVD Forum web page is managed by Toshiba rather than by the Forum, then you can't take for gospel everything they say as being the opinion of the DVD Forum.
Commen Sense says? so if I had some then i would have thought of that myself...thanks and you "guess" that the engineers used the term originally? must be true then

And you were happy to quote wikipedia on "the official DVD Forum site" as if the DVD forum was the place that would know the facts and now just as happy to claim we "can't take for gospel everything they say" when their own FAQ doesnt even hint at the possibility of the definition you're pushing.

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Do you have a response to what is written in the DVD FAQ?
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Do you have a response to what is written in the DVD FAQ?
Yes this unofficial DVD resource says "Digital video disc (the original meaning proposed by some of DVD's creators)" which seems a bit of a contradiction - if only some proposed this then how can it be the original meaning? Maybe some people proposed "Dynamite Virile Donkey" but it doesnt say

That faq also says "DVD-Video (often simply called DVD) defines how video programs such as movies are stored on disc" why would you call it "DVD-Video" if its not "versatile"?... "Digital Video Disc Video" that makes no sense.

Remember, it doesnt make any sense!!
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Re: Blackpool 2006 Dvd

I'd agree that "Digital Versatile Disc" is the current commonly understood meaning of "DVD", but as the author says, agreeing with both me and Wikipedia, the "original" meaning was "Digital Video Disc", and it officially now is just "DVD" – without the letters standing for anything.

Despite this FAQ being "unofficial", I'm more inclined to believe it and Wikipedia than you, or even the DVD Forum web site.

Especially after reading this mini-bio of the author:
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Can you imagine the porn industry releasing films on VDD?

That's a good un'!

I agree with Ducasi though and I have also heard that it was originally called "Digital Video Disc" and later changed it to Versatile. That's two against one then hey DF? Or make that 3. Wikipedia being the 3rd.
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of some!! and I've never heard of it and I've got a collection of cuddly smurfs.

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He hardly has any credibility at all anymore and Wikipedia never had any in the first place.

It makes no sense that an optical disc format which had a lot of ..er..versatile uses and was later used primarily for video would be called VIDEO first and VERSATILE later. It makes no sense. Sense? None!
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Just how much further is this conversation on the letters DVD going to go?
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