Intermediate/Advanced Spinning

[TheTramp]

I agree with Lene.

But what do I know, compared to Gadget!

Trampy

[Gadget]

Well Rachel agrees with me, so

[Rachel]

I do! Tramp, I'm surprised - are you actually saying that the harder you push, the more spins a girl will do??
R x

[TheTramp]

The more momentum you give her, yes. Although, that momentum has to be in the right plane, and done in the right way....

And if you don't believe me. Then next time we meet, I'll demonstrate

Trampy

[Rachel]

Originally Posted by TheTramp

The more momentum you give her, yes. Although, that momentum has to be in the right plane, and done in the right way....

And if you don't believe me. Then next time we meet, I'll demonstrate

Trampy

Hm, not convinced. I think a girl can provide more than enough momentum by herself. A guy shovng her twice as hard will normally destory so much of the control and balance she needs for the spins. I'd much rather my lead 'suggests' a spin, and lets me go for it myself.

All the same - I'll very much look forward to the meet and the demo!
R.

[Rachel]

Originally Posted by TheTramp

... Although, that momentum has to be in the right plane, and done in the right way....

Sorry, not reading things through carefully enough - yes, I guess it all comes down to the above. I do agree with that. But I still stand by my argument...

[Sheepman]

Originally Posted by lene

it depends how much strength you put in your lead for making a lady spin. If you give little strength she will spin once. More strength you can expect 2-3 spins.

Originally Posted by Gadget

Nope. Have to dissagree: The lead should only really be indicative of a spin, and perhaps the timeing of it if it's a slow spin. "Strength" of lead should never come into it.

I was trying to help out some friends the other day who were having trouble with this (that's about the only time I try to analyse what I do.) I think this isn't entirely black and white. It depends what you mean by "little strength". If I'm leading a single spin with an experienced dancer, I would try to use the merest touch, before dropping my hold, to indicate the direction of the lead - no more than just absorbing the momentum from her current direction of travel, and letting her realise she is going to spin back in the other direction. (This is about the only time I might get close to emulating David B ) Very few partners will then go off on multiple spins as they are having to do all the work themselves. IMO it can lead to a slow graceful spin, rather than a rushed one (after all 2 beats to get around should be plenty of time.)
My "regular" lead for a spin is more likely to include a steady compression that gives the lady something more to push off against - she can then do the multiple spins if she wants.
If I am intending that she should do multiple spins, then the strength may be very slightly increased, but what I think is much more important is that your preparation is bigger, & you follow through the lead further, which gives her more time to build up the spin. Because this follow through MUST go with the rotation of the spin, I tend to find it is easier when lead from moves where I'm holding her wrist or elbow, rather than pushing against a fist.

I think I could do with some followers feedback on this . . .

Originally Posted by Gadget

. . . you can't/shouldn't "throw" a lady into a spin.

Absolutely!

Greg