To Draw or not to Draw the semi circle....

[thewacko]

Surely the semi circle is ok to learn a move - ok the move is about to start ...

but in Freestyle, my most common start is the armjive, especially with beginners, as this enables the couple to get the beat together, and then move on, with the more advanced dancers I start with many different methods, a favourite being walking on the floor with the lady walking behind me, but her hand draped over my shoulder, when I get to the part of the floor that has enough room to start i do a sort of twist pull turny sort of thing that then brings the lady in front of my and enables me to do ma thing.

But the semi circle ... oh please

[Tazmanian Devil]

Originally posted by Jon L
Taz the first post in thread says it's aimed at men and ladies who can dance the man's part. I would have typed this but it would have made the lines a bit long

Oh ok thanks So that means I am a man and never do a semicircle to start a dance

Wacko hunny what do you think of that statement

[thewacko]

Originally posted by Tazmanian Devil
So that means I am a man and never do a semicircle to start a dance

Wacko hunny what do you think of that statement

looks like I am going to have to do some "mickey" moves tonight to prove the statement about being a man is or isn't true

oh dear I hope it isn't, especially when I think of some of the things I've said never mind done to you

[Tazmanian Devil]

Originally posted by thewacko
looks like I am going to have to do some "mikey" moves tonight to prove the statement about being a man is or isn't true

Oh no you wont!!

Originally posted by thewacko
oh dear I hope it isn't, especially when I think of some of the things I've said never mind done to you

hey if I can do up close and personal moves with women why cant you do them with men? Although that would be a funny sight!!

[thewacko]

Originally posted by Tazmanian Devil
hey if I can do up close and personal moves with women why cant you do them with men? Although that would be a funny sight!!

HELLO, this is the man who tried dancing ladies moves with the men at charlton, and you saw the reaction I got then.

could you imagine the reaction I would get trying to do up close and personal.

BUT DON'T DARE ME

[eastmanjohn]

Originally posted by thewacko
lady walking behind me, but her hand draped over my shoulder, when I get to the part of the floor that has enough room to start i do a sort of twist pull turny sort of thing that then brings the lady in front of my and enables me to do ma thing.

But the semi circle ... oh please

I'm going to guess that the first thing you then do is lead a return before doing any other move. Would I be right?

If so, maybe it would be interesting to get some discussion on the use of the 'return'. What is the concensus view on the need for a return and when to use them?

I guess this has come up before, but look forward to responses.

Cheers

John

[thewacko]

Originally posted by eastmanjohn
I'm going to guess that the first thing you then do is lead a return before doing any other move. Would I be right?

If so, maybe it would be interesting to get some discussion on the use of the 'return'. What is the concensus view on the need for a return and when to use them?

I guess this has come up before, but look forward to responses.

Cheers

John

it can be a return, but also a sort of pull down from the shoulder.

the main use of a return is to stop the lady from getting dizzy, but also a bloody good way of getting into moves such as a comb, or to get into a double handed move (catching the ladies right arm as she returns)

cheers

Phil



aaaaargh I am starting to get serious

[Tazmanian Devil]

Originally posted by thewacko
HELLO, this is the man who tried dancing ladies moves with the men at charlton, and you saw the reaction I got then.

could you imagine the reaction I would get trying to do up close and personal.

BUT DON'T DARE ME

well you could always ask Jon for a dance he knows the womens moves I think that would be rather interesting!!

[Tazmanian Devil]

[quote]Originally posted by thewacko
it can be a return, but also a sort of pull down from the shoulder.

the main use of a return is to stop the lady from getting dizzy, but also a bloody good way of getting into moves such as a comb, or to get into a double handed move (catching the ladies right arm as she returns)

cheers

Phil[quote]



I totally agree the return has many uses when dancing both the mens and ladys part

Originally posted by thewacko
aaaaargh I am starting to get serious

YOU SERIOUS I dont think so some how!!

[thewacko]

Originally posted by Tazmanian Devil
well you could always ask Jon for a dance he knows the womens moves I think that would be rather interesting!!

well jon looks like the gauntlet has been thrown down

but should I call you graham or kevin

[Chris]

Originally posted by thewacko
[b]the main use of a return is to stop the lady from getting dizzy/B]

For beginners yes. But why 'stop her getting dizzy' when she doesn't (ie when she's learnt to spot). And what about those ladies who accurately finish their spin or turn a fraction of a second before the next beat so they can instantly be ready to respond to the amazingly fascinating idea you throw at them . . . and get a . . . wait for it . . . a return.

[thewacko]

Originally posted by Chris
For beginners yes. But why 'stop her getting dizzy' when she doesn't (ie when she's learnt to spot). And what about those ladies who accurately finish their spin or turn a fraction of a second before the next beat so they can instantly be ready to respond to the amazingly fascinating idea you throw at them . . . and get a . . . wait for it . . . a return.

but if they 'accurately' finish a fraction before the beat they are not that accurate are they!

and as I put in the rest of my bit, the return is then handy for getting into the next move innit

[Chris]

Originally posted by thewacko
but if they 'accurately' finish a fraction before the beat they are not that accurate are they!

Well it depends on what they are intending. If you watch many an advanced dancer she will use that last fraction of a second to add some styling with her free hand, so as far as the beat goes she finishes the move when she says she finishes it. If she's just ahead cos she hasn't timed it and stands there doing nothing I suppose it could look a bit off.

Chris (still working on my own spinning and timing!)

[stewart38]

Originally posted by DavidB
- Does it feel good? After 6 dances at a Ceroc night last Saturday I had to strap up my left wrist. After 2 hours of dancing I could only lead moves with my right hand.


So I would like an option for "I'm a man, I never have and never will do a semi-circle with my hand"

David

Were you dancing with women or apes

[thewacko]

Originally posted by stewart38
Were you dancing with women or apes

leave the boomster out of this

Originally posted by DavidB

- Does it feel good? After 6 dances at a Ceroc night last Saturday I had to strap up my left wrist. After 2 hours of dancing I could only lead moves with my right hand.

i know the feeling

[DavidB]

Originally posted by stewart38
Were you dancing with women or apes

I've never danced with Boomer, but Gus can be a bit of a handful. He loves those spins though...

They were women. One lady said she hadn't been dancing for a couple of years, so I can forgive her. But some of the rest apparently go every week...

David

[thewacko]

Originally posted by DavidB


They were women. One lady said she hadn't been dancing for a couple of years, so I can forgive her. But some of the rest apparently go every week...

David

oh so you have danced with taz as well

[DavidB]

Originally posted by thewacko
oh so you have danced with taz as well

It was nice knowing you. I hope Taz lets us know where to send the flowers...

[David Franklin]

Originally posted by DavidB
They were women. One lady said she hadn't been dancing for a couple of years, so I can forgive her. But some of the rest apparently go every week...

Well, you've gotta go regularly if you want to build up the muscle tone ya know!

Hmm... Taebo meets Ceroc.... Now's there's a marketing opportunity! Our resident martial arts expert TheTramp will of course fill in for Billy Blanks...

Dave

[thewacko]

Originally posted by DavidB
It was nice knowing you. I hope Taz lets us know where to send the flowers...

I'll take that as a yes then.

Knowing taz she will read these today and give me hell tonight, just as well I know she can take a joke innit