Tips and Tricks - Page 3

TheTramp · 29th-November-2002, 11:24 AM

Speaking as a teacher, I have to say that not only do I enjoy dancing with beginners - and usually try to do so for at least part of the night, even when I'm not teaching. As far as I'm concerned, I am being paid (quite a reasonable sum of money) for my time for the entire night, and not just for the 1.25 hours when I'm actually teaching.

Maybe it should be pointed out to some of the above teachers that they are being paid for the night. If the teacher, who is usually the main focal point of the evening, isn't giving off the right attitude, then I think that the atmosphere can be affected for the entire evening.

I'm not sure I put that across quite as I intended to. Late night last night. I hope that you get the gist though.

Steve

**Franck** · 29th-November-2002, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by TheTramp
If the teacher, who is usually the main focal point of the evening, isn't giving off the right attitude, then I think that the atmosphere can be affected for the entire evening.

I'm not sure I put that across quite as I intended to. Late night last night. I hope that you get the gist though.

Loud and clear Steve

I totally agree. This point was touched upon in a previous thread (about cliques). Teachers influence far more than just the dancing ability of their class.

Franck.

**Rachel** · 29th-November-2002, 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by Franck
This saddens me tremendously, and I can only hope that a few Franchisee / Teachers reading this thread will pick up on that and check around their venues or modify their behaviour!

Yes, let's hope so.

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Well, you hardly qualify as a Beginner, in fact I am sure I had to stand in a queue to eventually get a dance with you
Franck.

A very kind comment! ... yes, I have been doing Ceroc for a quite some time now, so I guess I'm not a beginner any more (but still more a beginner than Steve 'The Tramp' is!) ... I like to think that you were exaggerating a little about the 'queue' but, unfortunately, I know for a fact that it's downright untrue!

Actually, being in Glasgow really helped me get over my phobia about asking men to dance - and I don't think anyone turned me down, so that was a nice confidence booster. In fact, now I find I ask men to dance a lot, wherever I am, whereas I'd never dare to do that a few months ago.
R.

TheTramp · 29th-November-2002, 11:44 AM

Hey!!

No-one is more of a beginner than I am.

You don't even have it in your title. Some beginner you are, Rachel!

Steve

Edited to acknowledge that you do now have it in your title. Copycat!!

**Rachel** · 29th-November-2002, 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by TheTramp
Hey!!

No-one is more of a beginner than I am.

You don't even have it in your title. Some beginner you are, Rachel!

Steve

Um, exactly what is it you're beginner at , Steve???

Funny, I believed you the first time I was about to dance with you at Cricklewood when you told me you were a beginner! I think it took me all of, oh, 0.5 seconds to realise this was a slight untruth!

TheTramp · 29th-November-2002, 12:28 PM

Ummm......

I'm not particularly good at fly fishing....

So, when am I going to get another dance then. Since we didn't actually manage to hook up at Camber at all

Are you going to Bognor, or the blues in January?

Steve

**DavidB** · 29th-November-2002, 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by Rachel
I like to think that you were exaggerating a little about the 'queue' but, unfortunately, I know for a fact that it's downright untrue!

I'm not so sure about that. The only way I managed to get a dance with you on Tuesday was to mug the man you had just been dancing with before he could ask you for another dance!

TheTramp · 29th-November-2002, 01:20 PM

Is that the accepted way to get to the popular ladies then David?? *starts looking for baseball bat in red to match the shoes*

Steve

**DavidB** · 29th-November-2002, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by TheTramp
Is that the accepted way to get to the popular ladies then David??

Trampling over everyone else to get to the ladies - I wonder where I got the idea...

TheTramp · 29th-November-2002, 01:37 PM

Hmmm.

From Nigel??

Steve

**Rachel** · 29th-November-2002, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheTramp
Hey!!

No-one is more of a beginner than I am.

You don't even have it in your title. Some beginner you are, Rachel!

Steve

Edited to acknowledge that you do now have it in your title. Copycat!!

I didn't put it in my title! Curious ... Did you? Or Graham?

TheTramp · 29th-November-2002, 02:00 PM

It was not I....I don't have the facility to do things like that.

I'll offer 2-1 on that it was Franck though...

Steve

**Rachel** · 29th-November-2002, 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by TheTramp
It was not I....I don't have the facility to do things like that.

I'll offer 2-1 on that it was Franck though...

Steve

Yes, of course it would have been Franck! It's funny! I guess it could have been something much worse!

**Franck** · 29th-November-2002, 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by Rachel
I didn't put it in my title! Curious ... Did you? Or Graham?

Guilty as charged :sorry

I reckon it's quite nice, but I can change it to something more appropriate at any time! Just let me know, and NO Steve, this is not an invitation for suggestions of better titles

Franck.

TheTramp · 29th-November-2002, 02:05 PM

What? Me?? C'mon Franck, you know I'm as sweet and innocent as the day is long. What suggestions would, nay could, I make??

Although, on the other hand........

Steve

**Rachel** · 29th-November-2002, 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by DavidB
I'm not so sure about that. The only way I managed to get a dance with you on Tuesday was to mug the man you had just been dancing with before he could ask you for another dance!

Oh David, I only wish I could believe that! The only reason I was having quite a few dances at Ealing was because there were so many familiar faces.

I'm still reeling from the shock and pleasure of Graham LeClerc asking me to dance ... but having to turn him down - no, postpone him - because I was just about to dance with someone else. I never did get round to finding him for a dance later. Think I'll live to regret that!

But you know I would have walked over hell and high water to get an opportunity to dance with you, David. It's just that I keep embarrassing myself by dancing sooo badly with you and some of my very bad habits start coming out - like anticipating spins, when you really wanted to block me and make me turn the other way. I'm sorry!!! However, the only way I can see to remedy this is to keep on trying to get dances with you until I start improving!

By the way, Lily looked absolutely fantastic (as ever) dancing on Tuesday!
Rachel

**Rachel** · 29th-November-2002, 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by Franck
Guilty as charged :sorry

I reckon it's quite nice, but I can change it to something more appropriate at any time!

No, I like it - reminds me of the film. (Yes, it was a crap film, but I am a big Bowie fan.)

**Rachel** · 29th-November-2002, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by TheTramp
So, when am I going to get another dance then. Since we didn't actually manage to hook up at Camber at all. Steve

I noticed! For some reason, both you and Marc abandoned me - the whole weekend - to do exciting things with Marilene!! (Could it possibly be because she's good looking, a fantastic dancer and nice person to boot?)

But I'm yours to dance with any time you like. Won't be at Bognor, I'm afraid, but will be at Camber in May and fancy coming down to the Brighton weekend in February.
R.

TheTramp · 29th-November-2002, 02:25 PM

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Could it possibly be because she's good looking, a fantastic dancer and nice person to boot?

I happen to think that you fall into all of these categories too. I'm not quite sure what happened

Just one of those things I guess. I'll come looking for you next time.

Would have been at Hipsters on Tuesday, if I hadn't been teaching in Brighton. Although, I gather that it was pretty busy. I think I'll be there next week, although, I guess that you won't be making the journey down from Northampton ever week

I'll look forward to the next time, and make sure that I come find you (and vice versa I hope!)....

Steve

**DavidB** · 29th-November-2002, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by Rachel
It's just that I keep embarrassing myself by dancing sooo badly with you and some of my very bad habits start coming out - like anticipating spins, when you really wanted to block me and make me turn the other way.

As has been said before, it is the man's fault. I can't get used to the speed that you spin, and I was usually too late to lead you properly. It can get embarrasing if I mis-time a block (especially if Marc or Lily is watching!) I need more practice dancing with you.

I'm starting to think one of the hardest things about leading is adjusting to the lady - ie leading your moves the way she wants them to be led.

David

29th-November-2002, 11:44 AM	#44 (permalink)
TheTramp The Forum Legend Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 10,512 Status: No Status Rep Power: 6 Rep.: 1723	Hey!! No-one is more of a beginner than I am. You don't even have it in your title. Some beginner you are, Rachel! Steve Edited to acknowledge that you do now have it in your title. Copycat!! Last edited by TheTramp; 29th-November-2002 at 12:29 PM.

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TheTramp The Forum Legend Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 10,512 Status: No Status Rep Power: 6 Rep.: 1723	What? Me?? C'mon Franck, you know I'm as sweet and innocent as the day is long. What suggestions would, nay could, I make?? Although, on the other hand........ Steve Attached Images

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29th-November-2002, 11:24 AM	#41 (permalink)
TheTramp The Forum Legend Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 10,512 Status: No Status Rep Power: 6 Rep.: 1723	Speaking as a teacher, I have to say that not only do I enjoy dancing with beginners - and usually try to do so for at least part of the night, even when I'm not teaching. As far as I'm concerned, I am being paid (quite a reasonable sum of money) for my time for the entire night, and not just for the 1.25 hours when I'm actually teaching. Maybe it should be pointed out to some of the above teachers that they are being paid for the night. If the teacher, who is usually the main focal point of the evening, isn't giving off the right attitude, then I think that the atmosphere can be affected for the entire evening. I'm not sure I put that across quite as I intended to. Late night last night. I hope that you get the gist though. Steve

29th-November-2002, 12:28 PM	#46 (permalink)
TheTramp The Forum Legend Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 10,512 Status: No Status Rep Power: 6 Rep.: 1723	Ummm...... I'm not particularly good at fly fishing.... So, when am I going to get another dance then. Since we didn't actually manage to hook up at Camber at all Are you going to Bognor, or the blues in January? Steve

29th-November-2002, 01:20 PM	#48 (permalink)
TheTramp The Forum Legend Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 10,512 Status: No Status Rep Power: 6 Rep.: 1723	Is that the accepted way to get to the popular ladies then David?? starts looking for baseball bat in red to match the shoes Steve

29th-November-2002, 01:37 PM	#50 (permalink)
TheTramp The Forum Legend Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 10,512 Status: No Status Rep Power: 6 Rep.: 1723	Hmmm. From Nigel?? Steve

29th-November-2002, 02:00 PM	#52 (permalink)
TheTramp The Forum Legend Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 10,512 Status: No Status Rep Power: 6 Rep.: 1723	It was not I....I don't have the facility to do things like that. I'll offer 2-1 on that it was Franck though... Steve

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