Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers - Page 6

*Andy McGregor* · 3rd-July-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by David Bailey

You were? Well, blimey, why didn't you say something to the teacher then, huh?

I did try but couldn't make myself heard. This teacher has many, many voices in his head, all speaking at the same time. I was just one of those. I'm called "sensible voice No39" or SV39 for short. Unfortunately, "Mad Axe Killers Nos5&6&7&8" were all shouting "KILL! KILL! KILL!" and he couldn't hear me saying 'stay calm and speak with them later'

**stewart38** · 3rd-July-2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy McGregor

That was me, and all I don't want is people who have been trained to do the semi-circle, etc who are not prepared to change. Consider a French language class, how would the teacher feel if someone started attending who had been taught the wrong grammar and meaning for words? The conversation practice would be very odd, almost like two different languages were being spoken. That teacher would want those students to change to fit into their class. That is all I'm asking people to do at my classes - change to fit them or stay away.

Your orginal comment was that you dont want people who have been taught differently , I wouldn't use the word 'wrongly' but you can if you like

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Originally Posted by Andy McGregor

To give you an idea of my current thinking on this subject, we had a couple of ladies visit from the class down the road. They came saying "we'd reached a dead end in terms of learning and had been recommended to come here" at the end of the night they said "next week we'll bring some of the guys from XXXXX". My reply was that I'd rather they didn't. I explained that it takes much longer to train out a bad habit than it takes to create a good one - and I'd rather not have guys in my lesson who have bad habits that were created by other teachers.

The above comment suggest you dont want people who have picked up 'bad habits elsewhere' end of.

So for the record would you be happy to have someone who has learnt the semi circle but is prepared to adapt to your style or not have them at all .

ie it would be too much 'effort' /disruption to change them

This may sound pedantic but for a me a fundemental part of ceroc/jive is thats its open to everyone

If you come through the door bouncing 3ft high your generally encouraged to change but NOT turned away

**martingold** · 3rd-July-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by David Bailey

Boy, this one could have a cast of thousands...

were there any hairy people involved cos i wanna play

**Double Trouble** · 3rd-July-2008, 12:59 PM

Grease currently has -19 rep.

That's gotta be some kinda record innit?

**stewart38** · 3rd-July-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Double Trouble

Grease currently has -19 rep.

That's gotta be some kinda record innit?

-54 I think ,cant remember how you check max and -ve rep on here ??

I was going to -ve rep and follow the herd but I wasnt there

**martingold** · 3rd-July-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stewart38

Your orginal comment was that you dont want people who have been taught differently , I wouldn't use the word 'wrongly' but you can if you like

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Originally Posted by Andy McGregor

To give you an idea of my current thinking on this subject, we had a couple of ladies visit from the class down the road. They came saying "we'd reached a dead end in terms of learning and had been recommended to come here" at the end of the night they said "next week we'll bring some of the guys from XXXXX". My reply was that I'd rather they didn't. I explained that it takes much longer to train out a bad habit than it takes to create a good one - and I'd rather not have guys in my lesson who have bad habits that were created by other teachers.

The above comment suggest you dont want people who have picked up 'bad habits elsewhere' end of.

So for the record would you be happy to have someone who has learnt the semi circle but is prepared to adapt to your style or not have them at all .

ie it would be too much 'effort' /disruption to change them

This may sound pedantic but for a me a fundemental part of ceroc/jive is thats its open to everyone

If you come through the door bouncing 3ft high your generally encouraged to change but NOT turned away

i think if you read it properly andy is saying he would prefer them not to go but he didnt say he would ban them

**Gus** · 3rd-July-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy McGregor

I did try but couldn't make myself heard.

So ... you've got a 400w amplified system at your disposal, all your years of presentation experience and your teacher training ... and they STILL couldn't hear you?? Think that would fail you your LeRoc exam

Having said that .. there is a well local instructor who have taken to leaving the stage and getting-in-the-face of students who didn't give proper regard to the teacher .....

**martingold** · 3rd-July-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Double Trouble

Grease currently has -19 rep.

That's gotta be some kinda record innit?

good for him at least he gets something for his troubles

**Steven666** · 3rd-July-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stewart38

I was going to -ve rep and follow the herd but I wasnt there

Never follow the herd. It will imply that you can't think for yourself.

**Steven666** · 3rd-July-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by stewart38

-54 I think ,cant remember how you check max and -ve rep on here ??

Currently the lowest is -46.

Goto the memberlist and click on reputation to sort the column. Then go to the last page.

*Andy McGregor* · 3rd-July-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by stewart38

So for the record would you be happy to have someone who has learnt the semi circle but is prepared to adapt to your style or not have them at all .

-snip-

If you come through the door bouncing 3ft high your generally encouraged to change but NOT turned away

This is my policy. I really think that all people who want to learn to dance are fab. However, I consider the whole semi-circle, bouncy, jerky, tuggy thing as a risk to the safety of my customers: especially to their shoulder joints. Therefore I really don't want people at our classes who have been taught badly. That is why I'd rather they didn't come if that what they're going to do. As an HR specialist said to me during a time of change "it's either change the people or change the people".

I don't get grease coming to our classes and never really have done - he started dancing before we opened our regular classes. I've not seen him dancing for years - he's been to the odd event I've run but I've not really watched him dancing recently. I really can't remember how he dances. I have actually danced with him once, a few years ago, and I recollect that he was OK, not a star or a show-off, but not bad - quite a nice kisser too

*Andy McGregor* · 3rd-July-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gus

So ... you've got a 400w amplified system at your disposal, all your years of presentation experience and your teacher training ... and they STILL couldn't hear you??

Funnily enough, the amplification system isn't sensitive enough to pick up the voices in a dance teachers head. Which, I believe, is probably a good thing

**Vegetable** · 3rd-July-2008, 01:29 PM

Well.... I think grease just got eaten up and spit out...

I think its simple Dont wanna do the lesson dont,
If some ones teaching u listen not talk?,

LET THE PERSON SPEAK FOR THEM SELF, YOU WERNT THERE SO DONT COMMENT ON THE SITUATION.

Also, Lessons being slow... How the hell you think i learnt to dance lol, AXXy Taught me the basics! in the slow lessons!

go post some where else. Stop spreading rumors, let it be said we all know who you are as well lol......

**David Bailey** · 3rd-July-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stewart38

-54 I think ,cant remember how you check max and -ve rep on here ??

-46, actually...

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Originally Posted by stewart38

I was going to -ve rep and follow the herd but I wasnt there

I'm tempted to +ve rep him, I'm not keen on group neg-repping personally...

**Dreadful Scathe** · 3rd-July-2008, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by David Bailey

-46, actually...

I'm tempted to +ve rep him, I'm not keen on group neg-repping personally...

I accidently positive repped due to colour blindness.

**Gus** · 3rd-July-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegetable

LET THE PERSON SPEAK FOR THEM SELF, YOU WERNT THERE SO DONT COMMENT ON THE SITUATION.

Well ... it could be that nthe other person isn't on the forum ... or doesn;t want to post. IF there is truth in a tale, why can't someone else report it?

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Originally Posted by Vegetable

go post some where else. Stop spreading rumors, let it be said we all know who you are as well lol......

Any the price of freedom of expression and non-censorship is .....? Seriously, though they may be some debate about the exact veracity of what actuialy happened .. it has sparked some serious debate. Do you think you have the right to tell them "post somewhere else" just because you don't agree with what they say. A bit draconian would'nt you say old sport?

**Dreadful Scathe** · 3rd-July-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegetable

Well.... I think grease just got eaten up and spit out...

Think he'll have the balls to respond to his critics ? or has he CLUCK CLUCK BWWAAAAP CLUCK CLUCK ran off for good ?

*Andy McGregor* · 3rd-July-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gus

Any the price of freedom of expression and non-censorship is .....? Seriously, though they may be some debate about the exact veracity of what actuialy happened .. it has sparked some serious debate. Do you think you have the right to tell them "post somewhere else" just because you don't agree with what they say. A bit draconian would'nt you say old sport?

So, someone comes on here to say what he thinks and Gus says he shouldn't say it because people should be free to express themselves

Hey Gus, why not join the debate rather than stand around on the side-lines commenting on the style of debating?

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Vegetable Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Shoreham Posts: 280 Status: No Status Rep Power: 1 Rep.: 69	Re: Should teachers take their bad modes out on dancers Well.... I think grease just got eaten up and spit out... I think its simple Dont wanna do the lesson dont, If some ones teaching u listen not talk?, LET THE PERSON SPEAK FOR THEM SELF, YOU WERNT THERE SO DONT COMMENT ON THE SITUATION. Also, Lessons being slow... How the hell you think i learnt to dance lol, AXXy Taught me the basics! in the slow lessons! go post some where else. Stop spreading rumors, let it be said we all know who you are as well lol...... __________________ The Non-Edible Vegetable I Kissed A Girl And I Liked It!!!, Come Break My Heart... Bitch Last edited by Vegetable; 3rd-July-2008 at 01:33 PM.