Dancing and Fans

[Dan Hudson]

Ok.... with the upcoming Slinkys event this Saturday

We were speaking to the venue manangers.... a specialist dance school about the possibility of getting large fans to cool the masses...

BUT... they have stated, from a health and fitness point of view they do not advocate the use of mechanical cooling / fans while people are exercising...

something to do with cooling the muscles......

so over to you clever forumites .... do we ignore them and get fans.... go with the health point of view and risk you lovely people getting v hot

Anybody else come across this kind of info before??

[Donna]

Originally Posted by Dan Hudson

Ok.... with the upcoming Slinkys event this Saturday

We were speaking to the venue manangers.... a specialist dance school about the possibility of getting large fans to cool the masses...

BUT... they have stated, from a health and fitness point of view they do not advocate the use of mechanical cooling / fans while people are exercising...

something to do with cooling the muscles......

so over to you clever forumites .... do we ignore them and get fans.... go with the health point of view and risk you lovely people getting v hot

Anybody else come across this kind of info before??

Sounds a load of crap to me!! I don't see the difference between those and installed air conditioning! That's what it's there for, is to keep people cool. If people are constantly moving, their muscles aren't going to cool down that easily! Bloody hell, in chester I always hogg the area by the stage because that's where the big fan is placed, and I still feel hot! IMO it's more dangerous to dance in hot stuffy venues where people are more likely to dehydrate and pass out.

[Dan Hudson]

Originally Posted by Donna

Sounds a load of crap to me!! I don't see the difference between those and installed air conditioning! That's what it's there for, is to keep people cool. If people are constantly moving, their muscles aren't going to cool down that easily! Bloody hell, in chester I always hogg the area by the stage because that's where the big fan is placed, and I still feel hot! IMO it's more dangerous to dance in hot stuffy venues where people are more likely to dehydrate and pass out.

I was hoping for a relatively technical answer

i can see what they are saying and they are not saying we can't use fans. just they don't like it!

[Zebra Woman]

Agree that cool muscles are a bad thing, but the main thing that causes that problem in my experience, is too much time sitting out because A) there aren't enough men or B) I don't like the music.

If I sit out six dances on the trot in a very well cooled venue then yes it could be an issue . BUT it's not a problem I would expect at Slinky's because you have balanced the boy/girl tickets and got some great DJs in too.

So I say go ahead with the fan Dan.

[MartinHarper]

Yeah. if someone does exercise, and gets very sweaty, and then stands next to a powerful fan, then they'll get a very rapid cooling of any exposed flesh, and this can do bad things. It's not that the fans are dangerous - it's the contrast between dancing at the center of the dance floor (where fans don't reach), and standing still right next to a fan. It's the same reason why people are encouraged to "warm down" following vigorous exercise.

That said, most modern jive hardly qualifies as vigorous exercise.

[Chicklet]

If the fans were to be used to cool the room from comfortable to bloody cold then I can see their point and agree with it but it the fans are to be used to cool the room from stifling to almost comfortable, that sounds quite sensible.

[Baruch]

Originally Posted by Dan Hudson

BUT... they have stated, from a health and fitness point of view they do not advocate the use of mechanical cooling / fans while people are exercising...

something to do with cooling the muscles......

If cool/cold air causes problems with muscles during exercise, how do they think rugby and football players cope, running around in shorts outdoors in the winter? Sounds like rubbish to me.

[Dan Hudson]

Originally Posted by Baruch

If cool/cold air causes problems with muscles during exercise, how do they think rugby and football players cope, running around in shorts outdoors in the winter? Sounds like rubbish to me.

by wearing tights!!

[Gojive]

Originally Posted by Baruch

If cool/cold air causes problems with muscles during exercise, how do they think rugby and football players cope, running around in shorts outdoors in the winter? Sounds like rubbish to me.

Originally Posted by Dan Hudson

by wearing tights!!

Rugby is a game played by men with odd shaped balls - that's enough warning for me!

[Donna]

Originally Posted by Dan Hudson

I was hoping for a relatively technical answer

i can see what they are saying and they are not saying we can't use fans. just they don't like it!

Why get so technical? Your the Air Conditioning Project Manager!

[Sparkles]

Rapidly cooling down after exercise is not advised - this we all know.
The fans are, IMO, better than an air conditioning system (in some ways) because they do not cause a significant drop in the surrounding air temperature (as they only circulate the air and do not actively drop the room's temperature with a cooling system).
In this instance, Dan, although they have a point, I think that it is up to the individual dancer to ensure they look after their own muscles and up to you as the venue manager to ensure that dancers have an adequate supply of water and sufficient oppertunities to cool down safely to avoid dehydration.

[El Salsero Gringo]

Originally Posted by Sparkles

Rapidly cooling down after exercise is not advised - this we all know.
The fans are, IMO, better than an air conditioning system (in some ways) because they do not cause a significant drop in the surrounding air temperature (as they only circulate the air and do not actively drop the room's temperature with a cooling system).
In this instance, Dan, although they have a point, I think that it is up to the individual dancer to ensure they look after their own muscles and up to you as the venue manager to ensure that dancers have an adequate supply of water and sufficient oppertunities to cool down safely to avoid dehydration.

On the other hand, air conditioning dries the air and enables your own perspiration to do a much better job of keeping you cool. Without having to dance in hurricane force winds.

[Donna]

Originally Posted by El Salsero Gringo

On the other hand, air conditioning dries the air and enables your own perspiration to do a much better job of keeping you cool. Without having to dance in hurricane force winds.

Imagine that! We'd all end up looking like wallis and gromit on the way out! The only problem with air conditioning is it makes your throat go dry very quickly.

[spindr]

Well, in the "Danger" chapter of "How to Dance Forever" there's a whole section on dancing in a room that's too cold -- maybe your venue managers may have read it?

SpinDr

[Dan Hudson]

Fans ordered for delivery on Friday......

thanks all for your comments and suggestions...... having spoken again with the Venue Manager, he said it was just alien for him to have fans while dancing

[Obi's Sweat Band]

Originally Posted by Dan Hudson

Fans ordered for delivery on Friday......

thanks all for your comments and suggestions...... having spoken again with the Venue Manager, he said it was just alien for him to have fans while dancing

Cooling people down whilst exercising is a bad thing? B*ll*cks. Wish I could be there Hudson, but alas a friends 21st calls.

Peas...

[Donna]

Cooling people down whilst exercising is a bad thing? B*ll*cks.

[paul stevo]

It helps if the fans rotate when running, then people won`t be stood in a draft...causing them to stiffen up. Also, one fan for each corner of the venue will help cool more people.

And going against popular opinion.......SIZE IS EVERYTHING !!!

[Donna]

It helps if the fans rotate when running, then people won`t be stood in a draft...causing them to stiffen up. Also, one fan for each corner of the venue will help cool more people.

This is what they do in the chester venue it really makes a big difference. Tilting them down towards the floor slightly is better though saving them blowin everybody away!

And going against popular opinion.......SIZE IS EVERYTHING !!!

Tut tut..

[Emma]

I keep thinking that this is a thread about Dan's adoring public

I look forward to all the different kinds of fans tonight!