Luton Tuesdays

**stewart38** · 30th-August-2005, 10:43 AM

Has anyone ever been to Luton before (ceroc) . If so any good ?

tsh · 30th-August-2005, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stewart38

Has anyone ever been to Luton before (ceroc) . If so any good ?

Good enough. Plenty of space, air conditioned, and a reasonable class.

Sean

**stewart38** · 30th-August-2005, 11:32 PM

very nice venue some nice dancers

one major problem..............

No mints !!

**WittyBird** · 31st-August-2005, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by stewart38

very nice venue some nice dancers

one major problem..............

No mints !!

of course you can't buy mints anywhere..... and i bet you didnt pass tesco or a garage or a little corner shop and even attempt to see if they sold the sacred things.

I enjoyed Luton, good venue didnt rate the music much tho

all in all it was a good night.

**Northants Girly** · 31st-August-2005, 12:26 AM

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Has anyone ever been to Luton before (ceroc) . If so any good ?

Been to some freestyles there and yes - agree with whats been said - worth a trip

**Allez-Cat** · 31st-August-2005, 12:39 AM

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Good enough. Plenty of space, air conditioned, and a reasonable class.

The A/C really works, and it's now non-smoking to boot. The music does vary, but usually very acceptable. Numbers have not been too great of late, which does make for elbow room on the floor - a pleasant change after the likes of Chesham on Fridays! It's also a purpose-built function room which gives it a distinct edge over the school hall venues IMHO.

**WittyBird** · 31st-August-2005, 12:45 AM

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The A/C really works, and it's now non-smoking to boot. The music does vary, but usually very acceptable. Numbers have not been too great of late, which does make for elbow room on the floor - a pleasant change after the likes of Chesham on Fridays! It's also a purpose-built function room which gives it a distinct edge over the school hall venues IMHO.

yes bonus all round ... especially liked the fact that in the intermediate class they didnt make the women 'queue' , noticed it at Finchley last night, they get the women to stand individually inbetween other couples which means you get more of a dance and only really miss out on one move rather than 2 or 3. They move one lady on all the time. Think they should implement that at Chesham and Berko. So Bonus points from me

**Allez-Cat** · 31st-August-2005, 12:49 AM

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So Bonus points from me

Have a look at other comments on this "sprinkle" system (sorry - it's late and I'm too idle to go looking for it!), but some folk don't like it. I think it works well where there's a big surplus which, regrettably, seems to happen at Luton more often than not. How do we get the boys in?

**WittyBird** · 31st-August-2005, 12:59 AM

some folk don't like it. I think it works well where there's a big surplus which, regrettably, seems to happen at Luton more often than not. How do we get the boys in?[/quote]

Goodness knows I tell everyone I speak that they should come along, I love it and am completely addicted. Advertise free beer/football/p0rn maybe?
Just a thought...

Tell you what tho there's a guy who has been going to Chesham , Berko and I saw him at Luton tonite, only been going a few weeks and loves it, hes very shy and lacks confidence but I always make a point of asking him to dance. The reason being we need all the men we can get and also he always looks like hes having such a great time he is great fun to dance with! I hope that he sticks with it, and although i am a beginner myself i really want to encourage people like him.

**David Bailey** · 31st-August-2005, 08:42 AM

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Have a look at other comments on this "sprinkle" system

I quite like it - but I think you need to get people used to it at a venue, so if you do it, you should do it all the time, or at least very frequently.

It's been operating at Finchley for a few weeks now I think, and it really makes a difference. - no waiting for a minute for 10 women to "move up the first, blah". One bonus of this is that you can fit more routine-practices in the space of a single track.

**ducasi** · 31st-August-2005, 08:48 AM

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Have a look at other comments on this "sprinkle" system ... I think it works well where there's a big surplus ...

At JJ's in Glasgow last night it was up to 16 women on, 16 women off. I don't think there would have been enough room to sprinkle 16 extra half-couples amongst the actual couples.

**stewart38** · 31st-August-2005, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by wittybird

of course you can't buy mints anywhere..... and i bet you didnt pass tesco or a garage or a little corner shop and even attempt to see if they sold the sacred things.

I enjoyed Luton, good venue didnt rate the music much tho

all in all it was a good night.

Now I did like the music although some long breaks by the DJ with stop start at the end

With extra women i never understand that when there is 8 extra in Beginners they move 4 on at a time, which they did , thats silly

**David Bailey** · 31st-August-2005, 09:36 AM

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At JJ's in Glasgow last night it was up to 16 women on, 16 women off. I don't think there would have been enough room to sprinkle 16 extra half-couples amongst the actual couples.

Well, why not? It's the same amount of people dancing / waiting, no matter how you arrange them, surely?

And how long does it take to move 16 women on? Maybe a minute? That's a minute you could be learning rather than counting girls walking past you.
Although I guess it gives you the chance to scope out the talent...

**Tiggerbabe** · 31st-August-2005, 10:10 AM

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Well, why not? It's the same amount of people dancing / waiting, no matter how you arrange them, surely?

Not really, if you have 16 more people scattered amongst those dancing, they cause more disruption than 16 standing "out of the way" at the side of the dancefloor.

I think the scatter thing only works well if you are in a circle.

**David Bailey** · 31st-August-2005, 10:22 AM

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Not really, if you have 16 more people scattered amongst those dancing, they cause more disruption than 16 standing "out of the way" at the side of the dancefloor.

Probably at first - but that's why you need to persist with it for a few weeks. People (me included) can be slow on the uptake.

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I think the scatter thing only works well if you are in a circle.

It works more naturally in a circle, certainly - that's the way most salsa classes do it. But it can work in rows. Honest.

LMC · 31st-August-2005, 10:56 AM

I approve of the 'scatter' technique because it means you only have to count to 1 - yes, it takes a bit of getting used to, but it makes moving on much quicker - more teaching/dancing time.

We're in a dance class, therefore we are all reasonably physically fit - certainly fit enough to walk at more than a snail's pace. There is nothing more frustrating than dawdling behind a long line of women who trail along as if they are at a b****y funeral wake - MOVE!!! MOVE!!! MOVE!!! (OK, there are more frustrating things, I just don't need to rant about them right now)..

**stewart38** · 31st-August-2005, 11:00 AM

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Probably at first - but that's why you need to persist with it for a few weeks. People (me included) can be slow on the uptake.

It works more naturally in a circle, certainly - that's the way most salsa classes do it. But it can work in rows. Honest.

It can work if no one joins or leaves during the class and women are observant ie they dont all crowd into the first row. Unfortunately none of that happens. Moving on is still best on smaller numbers (under 15 ?)

Of course as a man i sometime joined the womens queue to add to confusion

**David Bailey** · 31st-August-2005, 11:01 AM

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We're in a dance class, therefore we are all reasonably physically fit - certainly fit enough to walk at more than a snail's pace. There is nothing more frustrating than dawdling behind a long line of women who trail along as if they are at a b****y funeral wake - MOVE!!! MOVE!!! MOVE!!!

It's not much fun for the men either - I usually count and stick out my hand to stop the relevant lady (OK, that part is fun). And the larger the numbers, the more time the teacher has to spend saying "anybody missing a partner?" - which means he/she has less time to actuallly teach.

Anything that makes class management smoother must be a Good Thing.

The sprinkle thing also means that even if you're not dancing, you're usually in between two couples who are dancing - so hopefully you can see what they're doing better, rather than being stuck away in the Leftovers Row.

**stewart38** · 31st-August-2005, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidJames

The sprinkle thing also means that even if you're not dancing, you're usually in between two couples who are dancing - so hopefully you can see what they're doing better, rather than being stuck away in the Leftovers Row.

4 new women turn up two men leave then what ?

By its natures its too rigid

I think it works in Aussie land as if there are less then 30 people it could work well.

LMC · 31st-August-2005, 11:08 AM

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It can work if no one joins or leaves during the class and women are observant ie they dont all crowd into the first row. Unfortunately none of that happens.

That's why DJ and I *both* said it takes a bit of getting used to. If managed properly (i.e teacher tells women to space themselves out in *all* rows) it works extremely well.

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Moving on is still best on smaller numbers (under 15 ?)

Less than 4 maybe. Any more than that, scatter is better. DEFINITELY if you're moving on more women than the number of men standing in the first row - that's happened a few times.

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WittyBird The Gobby one! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Geekville Posts: 6,874 Status: No Status Rep Power: 5 Rep.: 3079	Re: Luton Tuesdays some folk don't like it. I think it works well where there's a big surplus which, regrettably, seems to happen at Luton more often than not. How do we get the boys in?[/quote] Goodness knows I tell everyone I speak that they should come along, I love it and am completely addicted. Advertise free beer/football/p0rn maybe? Just a thought... Tell you what tho there's a guy who has been going to Chesham , Berko and I saw him at Luton tonite, only been going a few weeks and loves it, hes very shy and lacks confidence but I always make a point of asking him to dance. The reason being we need all the men we can get and also he always looks like hes having such a great time he is great fun to dance with! I hope that he sticks with it, and although i am a beginner myself i really want to encourage people like him.

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LMC Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In the corner Posts: 4,508 Status: No Status Rep Power: 4 Rep.: 2319	Re: Luton Tuesdays I approve of the 'scatter' technique because it means you only have to count to 1 - yes, it takes a bit of getting used to, but it makes moving on much quicker - more teaching/dancing time. We're in a dance class, therefore we are all reasonably physically fit - certainly fit enough to walk at more than a snail's pace. There is nothing more frustrating than dawdling behind a long line of women who trail along as if they are at a b**y funeral wake - MOVE!!! MOVE!!! MOVE!!!** (OK, there are more frustrating things, I just don't need to rant about them right now)..