You Tube Dance videos

[jiveknight]

Cheers! We're releasing the song as a single in a couple of weeks then the album in autumn.

lil miss hayley is very talented. she's only 17 too (started singing with us off n on when she was 13) so a long future ahead of her. She's going in for x factor too fyi so pls look out for her.

Cheers, ian

[jiveknight]

I loved the video also, and the dancing was great - which comes as no surprise considering who the dancers are. Plus - the dancing (IMO) fit the style and speed of the music perfectly. It's around 205-210bpm, if I'm not mistaken? - so it's hardly the slowest track out there. To me, the dancing looked very relaxed and casual - no unnecessary speedup in sight.

Cheers, they are some of the best and very natural too :-)


If I'm going to be picky, I'd say the intro before the music began was a little slow, and if I didn't know of the Aces, it might have lost me before the video got going - I swear that t'internet has lowered my attention span considerably. That's just hyper-pickiness though.

Know what you mean but we wanted to keep that build in as it adds to the story so left it that length, seems to be working luckily too (220,000 hits :-)

Anyway - looking forward to the new album. Is there a release date yet?

Should be end of summer or early autumn. The song will be released a s a download etc in a couple of weeks.

[EDIT]Out of curiousity, I looked up "Lil' Miss Hayley" from the links on the video, as I'd not come across her before - just how talented is she??? Amazing dancer, and then there's things like this... great musician, fantastic voice - I'm seriously impressed.[/EDIT]

You're right! She's great, and only 17 so a long career ahead of her (she's been singing with us on and off since she was 13).
She's going for X-factor too so look out for her:-)

Cheers, Ian

[straycat]

Yo-Yo Ma & Lil Buck. Wow. Just ... wow.

[Andy Razzle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_UPuF9M2lY was booked for this

[cederic]

Some modern jive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjAovO3vYWs

Looks like the village hall 800y from my house (and yeah, I recognise people sat watching as well as the two dancing). Wasn't at that party though

[Lost Leader]

Nice footage of Simon and Nicole's latest routine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg131b61Pyk

[Rocky]

There was a discussion on here a little while ago about 'fast feet' - this is a great old clip of Brent & Kellese performing a fast WCS showcase.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUFKhBhf ... ture=share

Now THAT'S dancing...

[Tiggerbabe]

Amazing, they are fabulous dancers

[David Franklin]

There was a discussion on here a little while ago about 'fast feet' - this is a great old clip of Brent & Kellese performing a fast WCS showcase.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUFKhBhf ... ture=share

If you want to see fast feet, you should also see their 2000 (Scatman) routine:

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[Lory]

If you want to see fast feet, you should also see their 2000 (Scatman) routine:

[youtube]RAVh972SW5s[/youtube]

Feet are so fast and yet the bodies are so smooth

Love that last track too

[Lost Leader]

There are some nice MJ moves here - and it's well filmed for once.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9j1RI6hvvI&NR=1

[Lost Leader]

Feet are so fast and yet the bodies are so smooth

Love that last track too

If anything their dancing to that second track is even better than the first. Quite awesome in fact.

[Chef]

There are some nice MJ moves here - and it's well filmed for once.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9j1RI6hvvI&NR=1

It is beautifully and skillfully danced and well filmed.

BUT

I seem to have lost track of MJ over the last few years. Could you tell me at what times in the video you can see an MJ move? Could you tell me what makes it an MJ move? (ie is it taught by Ceroc, Leroc, etc) Is there anything that characterises an MJ move so that you can say that this is MJ or that isn't? Or can you do anything at an MJ competition and that makes it MJ?

[Minnie M]

It is beautifully and skillfully danced and well filmed.

BUT

I seem to have lost track of MJ over the last few years. Could you tell me at what times in the video you can see an MJ move? Could you tell me what makes it an MJ move? (ie is it taught by Ceroc, Leroc, etc) Is there anything that characterises an MJ move so that you can say that this is MJ or that isn't? Or can you do anything at an MJ competition and that makes it MJ?

[Whitebeard]

It is beautifully and skillfully danced and well filmed.

BUT

I seem to have lost track of MJ over the last few years. Could you tell me at what times in the video you can see an MJ move? Could you tell me what makes it an MJ move? (ie is it taught by Ceroc, Leroc, etc) Is there anything that characterises an MJ move so that you can say that this is MJ or that isn't? Or can you do anything at an MJ competition and that makes it MJ?

So it's too good to be MJ?

What makes it not MJ?

A lack of recognisable MJ "moves" seems to be your answer to the latter. Which frankly surprises me, having read a number of very thoughtful and useful posts from you in the past. Is MJ really to be defined by "moves" and does MJ "own" those moves? What to make of the fact that most, if not all, of the moves commonly encountered in MJ are also to be found in other "swing" dance forms and even more tellingly the Salsa scene? I believe you reacted and posted in haste before really thinking the matter through.

There have been discussions here on the forum seeking to clarify and define MJ. Without any very definite conclusions being reached. David James could no doubt tell us where.

For me though, particularly bearing in mind that this was a "showcase" performance, there is no questioning that it was well within the spirit of MJ. Taken to a level that few can aspire to. One of only a handful of video performances I would be proud to show to critical friends and family and bask in the reflected glory.

[straycat]

So it's too good to be MJ?

To be fair, Chef didn't actually say that.

What makes it not MJ?

To my eyes, the first half bears no resemblence to MJ at whatsoever, either moves-wise or stylistically. During the second track there seem to be a quite a few elements in common with MJ, although pure MJ it certainly isn't.

For me though, particularly bearing in mind that this was a "showcase" performance, there is no questioning that it was well within the spirit of MJ. Taken to a level that few can aspire to. One of only a handful of video performances I would be proud to show to critical friends and family and bask in the reflected glory.

If it's 'reflected glory' you're after though - I'm not convinced this is a the best example to use. While there's a huge amount of dancing skill on show here, I'd be very surprised if much of was learned from MJ teachings.

[TA Guy]

Must admit, watched the first minute or so and had exactly the same thought, "That isn't MJ!".

No comment on the quality, because I wouldn't know how to judge it, but for want of a better description looked more like "Swan Lake" dancers to me.

That said, it's a showcase, I guess anything goes.

[meghann]

If you look at the few things that exist between the lifts/dips/drops (many of which I do recognise from the MJ dancefloor) then there are bits in there that, as an MJ dancer, I could follow - although, needless to say, not with as much style. For me, that makes it MJ.

She dances beautifully, but for much of it he just seems to be standing there doing not very much other than acting as a pillar.

[Prian]

he just seems to be standing there doing not very much other than acting as a pillar.

He must have read the "Basic Floorcraft" thread.

[bigdjiver]

If you look at the few things that exist between the lifts/dips/drops (many of which I do recognise from the MJ dancefloor) then there are bits in there that, as an MJ dancer, I could follow - although, needless to say, not with as much style. For me, that makes it MJ....

For me one of the tests of an MJ move is "Can it be followed by someone with basic Modern Jive training who has never seen it before?"

For me you cannot get more Modern that now, a leader can , with limitations, invent it as it happens, and the follower can improvise too. For me the dance is, to use the fashionable term, crowd sourced. t its nub it is just dancing.

...She dances beautifully, but for much of it he just seems to be standing there doing not very much other than acting as a pillar.

There is a style doctrine "The man (or lead) is the frame, the woman (or follow) is the picture." and Modern Jive can be danced that way. Other styles include "A conversation" and a "Fusion" (both partners expressing the same ting in their own way). (There are evil twins, "an argument" and a "confusion". )

(My evil twin may try the crooked little finger lead from the BBC Apprentice)