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Geordieed wrote:Jordan doesn't do just what you could call random footwork. There is a formula/structure to it.
I didnt say he does random footwork. I said he does random 'patterns'.
If you watch his routines from the US open 04 he repeats sequences in different heats and uses different footwork patterns ie. the footwork is not set in stone as it would be in a waltz for example.
Completely agree with what you say about the intricacies of the footwork (something i wish i could do). It appears that if you have the knowledge and the skill to do it you can formulate dynamic footwork movements 'on-the-fly' , hence not having to do triple steps on the n'th beat.
Paul F wrote:I didnt say he does random footwork. I said he does random 'patterns'.
If you watch his routines from the US open 04 he repeats sequences in different heats and uses different footwork patterns ie. the footwork is not set in stone as it would be in a waltz for example.
Completely agree with what you say about the intricacies of the footwork (something i wish i could do). It appears that if you have the knowledge and the skill to do it you can formulate dynamic footwork movements 'on-the-fly' , hence not having to do triple steps on the n'th beat.
Okay I understand a bit more of what you're driving at. I know what you mean about repeating stuff. Just checking though you are talking about the Strictly section with Sarah. I sat up the other night watching the Grand Nationals from this year and saw Benji doing exactly the same. Both Jordan and Benji were much better in the finals though. Sarah and Jessica were great thoughout.
When you say "random" though I don't know exactly what you mean. Could you expand on what you mean. It would help me.
I watched Jordan to see what he was doing to try and break it down and he did stuff with the slot that I have been told you would get shot for in a Jack'n'Jill. What is an immense help is that we have teachers over here that can see what is on these DVD's and break it down and teach it to their classes. Without this and other help I would never have stood a snowflake in hells chance of understanding what was infront of me.
Geordieed wrote:
When you say "random" though I don't know exactly what you mean. Could you expand on what you mean. It would help me.
This internet connection at work is driving me nuts. Its so intermittent. How do they expect me to post on the forum if they dont provide me with a decent network
Sorry, back on thread.
Nothing fancy with the word 'random' im afraid. I just wanted to highlight that for any given routine the foot patterns can differ between heat a and heat b. Its not a set footwork dance.
Perhaps the word 'dynamic' is better.
is Jordan dancing in a Strictly or in the Classic division ie is he with a petit blonde woman with a bob or with her hair pinned up and back. One will be Sarah Vann Drake and the other is Tatiana Mollmann.
is Jordan dancing in a Strictly or in the Classic division ie is he with a petit blonde woman with a bob or with her hair pinned up and back. One will be Sarah Vann Drake and the other is Tatiana Mollmann.
I wouldnt like to say without checking. Will have a look and get back to you.
Paul F wrote:I wouldnt like to say without checking. Will have a look and get back to you.
It may or may not help but did they have matching outfits (silver and green outfits with sewn on detailing) or did Jordan have black trousers and a red shirt in the final. The differences with the two dances is that the Strictly is not cheorgraphed and the Classic is. It would shed some light on the patterns observation.
Geordieed wrote:It may or may not help but did they have matching outfits (silver and green outfits with sewn on detailing) or did Jordan have black trousers and a red shirt in the final. The differences with the two dances is that the Strictly is not cheorgraphed and the Classic is. It would shed some light on the patterns observation.
Its been a while since I watched it so I would have to go back and take another peek. Will try and do it when i get home from work but I also want to play with my new camera
Will definately get a look over the weekend though.
No worries, I never get tired of watching the main competitions. Did you meet Brandi last week when she was over. She is also in the competition last year in 3 different categories. She is competing again this year with one of our own British guys. Good luck to them. Plus anyone who met a young student from California called Megan last year will see her compete at the Open this year.
Geordieed wrote:No worries, I never get tired of watching the main competitions. Did you meet Brandi last week when she was over. She is also in the competition last year in 3 different categories. She is competing again this year with one of our own British guys. Good luck to them. Plus anyone who met a young student from California called Megan last year will see her compete at the Open this year.
I didnt get chance to meet her last week OR at Pauls class a few weeks back
She apparently came straight to Cats class from the airport. And still looked great
Who is the British guy? Im guessing he doesnt still live here?
Yup, she came straight from Heathrow and then danced with everyone who asked her 'til the end of the evening. She then left to start practising her new routine. She is doing a routine with Glen Ball, who for anyone who went to RebelYell will have seen teach. Either that or you see him at Surbiton or Kent House when he is not working. And yes he still lives in the UK.
Fingers crossed we will be getting a visit from 2 different couples from America before the end of the year. The teachers down here will announce what's going on when everything has been sorted out.
Geordieed wrote:Did you meet Brandi last week when she was over.
Yep.
Dancing with her was like it would be, changing from a Reliant Robin to a F1 racing car, and thinking, "what do all these controls do?".
Though what really tickled my sense of humour was watching Lee, normally so poised, precise and expert-looking, dance with her and become (or so it appeared) all timid and nervous...
Paul F wrote:
In reality you could dance a whole track without even a hint of a triple step.
When it was originally created WCS was known for its nimble footwork. The participants in those days did triples and more so
As long as you maintain a good structure including good communication with your partner you can do with your feet what you want Well, almost
I just came across this thread again randomly (don't remember it when it first appeared) and it's interesting reading. I was sat in Jaks on Sat night and Kyle was dancing with somebody in front of me. I watched his feet for the remainder of the song (2 mins or so) and he didn't do a single triple step. Not one. Did his dancing look like MJ? Not in my opinion. It's much more than triple steps that define the differences between the styles.
Well, almost 