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As a follow do you prefer

Simple moves
5
9%
Complex moves
0
No votes
Challenging moves
3
5%
A mixture
39
70%
Doesn't matter
9
16%
 
Total votes: 56

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As a follow and assuming equal degrees of skill, fluidity etc, would you prefer to be led in simple moves, complicated moves, challenging moves, a mixture or is it all just follow?

If I was going to dance with you for one dance only, what types of moves would you prefer I led (assuming I could led them all equally well)?

I'm essentially questioning the concept that all folllows are happy with a lead who dances simple moves well. To be honest I'm expecting people on both sides of the fence - I'm interested in what the split is, does it correlate to experience in anyway and anything else interesting that comes up :)
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Do you mean in one dance or over the course of an evening?
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Twirly wrote:Do you mean in one dance or over the course of an evening?
good question

but generally, im assuming over the evening. i like everything, simple, complex, different, same, mixed. As long as we both are enjoying it, all good for me.
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Twirly wrote:Do you mean in one dance or over the course of an evening?
Trouble wrote:good question
Very good question. Um hadn't looked at it that way :blush: . I meant it more as a general preference. I suppose a single dance is closer to what I had in mind though I take Trouble's point :flower:

If I was going to dance with you for one dance only, what types of moves would you prefer I led (assuming I could led them all equally well)?
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If the lead is good, I neither notice the complexity, nor the individual moves, it all just flows. :drool:

So I suppose my answer is, it's all just follow to me :nice:
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Whatever you decide to do make sure its lead well! Nothing worse than a badly lead dance/move/pattern.
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Ghost wrote:Very good question. Um hadn't looked at it that way :blush: . I meant it more as a general preference. I suppose a single dance is closer to what I had in mind though I take Trouble's point :flower:

If I was going to dance with you for one dance only, what types of moves would you prefer I led (assuming I could led them all equally well)?
Probably a mixture - a few challenging/complex moves interspersed with simpler moves to allow me to maintain/regain balance, breath or whatever.

Having said that, some of the best dances can be the simplest ones where there is that connection. And challenging ones are fun too. Wouldn't develop without them.

Uhm, guess that it's a "doesn't matter" for me then :nice:
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Ghost wrote:If I was going to dance with you for one dance only, what types of moves would you prefer I led (assuming I could led them all equally well)?
Aren't complex moves led well, simple moves?
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TheTramp wrote:Aren't complex moves led well, simple moves?
Apparently not, or so I've been told. They may be simple to follow, but there's an awareness that the move has a higher degree of complexity which for some follows is prefereable.
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TheTramp wrote:Aren't complex moves led well, simple moves?

or just variations / combinations of?
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Ghost wrote:Apparently not, or so I've been told. They may be simple to follow, but there's an awareness that the move has a higher degree of complexity which for some follows is prefereable.
I think that they're just nit-picking.

Anything that is led well, I'd say becomes simple.

Of course, it might just be that after the 213th first move in a row, they'd rather appreciate it if you led something else! :whistle:
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I only lead simple moves..

if they're too difficult I can't do them ;)
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woodface wrote:or just variations / combinations of?
Many are. One way to create complexity is by combining simple things.

A good leader can make complicated moves easier to follow, feel smoother, and look better. Still, an Accordion Comb Pull Crab is more complicated than an In and Out, all else remaining equal.
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Voted for a mixture, but really it's somewhere between a mixture and doesn't matter. I'm perfectly happy with simple moves, but it is nice to be surprised with something a bit challenging or complex or just out of the ordinary every now and then - I certainly wouldn't complain if I didn't get them though, just so long as I'm dancing, I'm happy!
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I like having a mixture of moves and if I am dancing with a beginner I stick to 'safe' moves but sometimes put them into a move that I can lead well and see how they follow and if they spin out I can still carry on the dance make the move look intentional.

Though the partner must like a bit of diversity with the dance.
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The only things that I would prefer not to be led into are dips and drops. .. I can only really cope with dips from the leads who know my limitations. I am not able to practice much at the moment, and so I am effectively only beginning the Intermediate classes - as a result I haven't done that many dips or other complicated moves in class....

(No drops at all please! 2 leads only excepted from this rule so far :worthy: :clap: :flower: )


Everything else I will be willing to try and learn if I haven't met it yet .... just warn me in advance of dips.

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Lory wrote:If the lead is good, I neither notice the complexity, nor the individual moves, it all just flows. :drool:

So I suppose my answer is, it's all just follow to me :nice:
You are one of the nicest people to dance with Lory and that is why.

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Msfab wrote:Nothing worse than a badly lead dance/move/pattern.
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Guilty of preaching the "simple moves are best" ethos before freestyling moves of a complex nature. :blush:

Always in pursuit of the move to end all moves. A variation on a variation can be built up then broken down till you get to the point where you share the product of your hard work with a mate!!!

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Marc Forster wrote: Hopefully, the times for experimentation are defined by the willingness of the follower to stretch the boundaries.
Also whether she's a good memory! How many times do you ask "Ooh that was nice, what did i just do? :whistle:
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